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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 631530" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>WM, my daughter is very sensitive and non-violent. But when she was drugs, and remember she used speed and meth (I thought it was pot...honestly, how dumb can I be?), she did put her hand through a window. I couldn't believe it. I had to call the ambulance. Again. They took her in. Again. She got verbally violent, threatened to kill herself, and put holes in our walls. She pulled a knife on herself. The cops came, as I called with a quivering voice asking for an ambulance, and put her in the back seat handcuffing her. I was mortified that they handcuffed her and she was screaming her lungs out at how much she hated me. This was not her before drugs. This was not my life, in any way, before I experienced a child on drugs. My goodness, hubby and I didn't even drink...had no alcohol in the house. We had no idea this was not due to only pot and maybe a mental illness (she is not mentally ill, but we thought she could be at the time).</p><p></p><p>What could make your son violent? Lots of drugs. I couldn't tell you which. I don't know most drugs. Things like Spice were not around then. I just know what made my daughter violent...speed and a little cocaine thrown into the mix. But...does it really matter? There is nothing we can do to stop them, except cut out the enabling. I was so dumb about drugs that my daughter was thrown out almost as soon as I realized more than pot was going on and that was only because I walked in on a drug party and surprised her and saw all the pills. My two little ones saw as well and they were crying hysterically. With a houseful of drug users, husband called the cops...again....and my little ones went to sit in the car. That was her last night in our house and it was very dramatic full of screaming, name calling by her visitors, and fear.</p><p></p><p>Then I finally knew the truth...it was not just pot. Pot doesn't make you violent.</p><p></p><p>I do know that once she quit, she went back to being her old, sweet self who is not at all violent. So there is hope for all of our adult children who became violent only since their drug abuse began. Also, always remember, there is hope your adult child will quit. I never thought she would. I thought she'd end up dead or in prison. She quit on her own. No rehab. I wasn't there when she did it.</p><p></p><p>But the short answer is, at the very least speed can cause violence.</p><p></p><p>This is not about your husband, really. If he met him at seventeen, he didn't rarise him and has only seen him this way. If I am being honest, if I met somebody's seventeen year old and they acted like your son is, I would not be found of that teenager either. There were times I had trouble hugging my own child, let alone somebody else doing it. This is about your son and his journey, which I hope turns out well. A hug from your husband would not make your son change one iota.</p><p></p><p>I offer my heartfelt empathy and many hugs and I do hope things calm down. It is common for druggies to get angry at one another and make threats, unfortunately. Usually nothing comes of it. My daughter did tell me that she had to get out of Wisconsin because she owed drug dealers money and they were threatening her, but she told me only AFTER she left Wisconsin or we would have sent her to Illinois sooner. It was her decision not to revive her drug life after she was gone. It doesn't work for all, but maybe a change of scenery could help your son regroup.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 631530, member: 1550"] WM, my daughter is very sensitive and non-violent. But when she was drugs, and remember she used speed and meth (I thought it was pot...honestly, how dumb can I be?), she did put her hand through a window. I couldn't believe it. I had to call the ambulance. Again. They took her in. Again. She got verbally violent, threatened to kill herself, and put holes in our walls. She pulled a knife on herself. The cops came, as I called with a quivering voice asking for an ambulance, and put her in the back seat handcuffing her. I was mortified that they handcuffed her and she was screaming her lungs out at how much she hated me. This was not her before drugs. This was not my life, in any way, before I experienced a child on drugs. My goodness, hubby and I didn't even drink...had no alcohol in the house. We had no idea this was not due to only pot and maybe a mental illness (she is not mentally ill, but we thought she could be at the time). What could make your son violent? Lots of drugs. I couldn't tell you which. I don't know most drugs. Things like Spice were not around then. I just know what made my daughter violent...speed and a little cocaine thrown into the mix. But...does it really matter? There is nothing we can do to stop them, except cut out the enabling. I was so dumb about drugs that my daughter was thrown out almost as soon as I realized more than pot was going on and that was only because I walked in on a drug party and surprised her and saw all the pills. My two little ones saw as well and they were crying hysterically. With a houseful of drug users, husband called the cops...again....and my little ones went to sit in the car. That was her last night in our house and it was very dramatic full of screaming, name calling by her visitors, and fear. Then I finally knew the truth...it was not just pot. Pot doesn't make you violent. I do know that once she quit, she went back to being her old, sweet self who is not at all violent. So there is hope for all of our adult children who became violent only since their drug abuse began. Also, always remember, there is hope your adult child will quit. I never thought she would. I thought she'd end up dead or in prison. She quit on her own. No rehab. I wasn't there when she did it. But the short answer is, at the very least speed can cause violence. This is not about your husband, really. If he met him at seventeen, he didn't rarise him and has only seen him this way. If I am being honest, if I met somebody's seventeen year old and they acted like your son is, I would not be found of that teenager either. There were times I had trouble hugging my own child, let alone somebody else doing it. This is about your son and his journey, which I hope turns out well. A hug from your husband would not make your son change one iota. I offer my heartfelt empathy and many hugs and I do hope things calm down. It is common for druggies to get angry at one another and make threats, unfortunately. Usually nothing comes of it. My daughter did tell me that she had to get out of Wisconsin because she owed drug dealers money and they were threatening her, but she told me only AFTER she left Wisconsin or we would have sent her to Illinois sooner. It was her decision not to revive her drug life after she was gone. It doesn't work for all, but maybe a change of scenery could help your son regroup. [/QUOTE]
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