difficult child has recently started seeing a therapist (about 3 mos ago). Not sure if it does anygood, but willing wait and see. I realize this is not a quick answer. therapist has not seen difficult child in his full glory. She gets him one on one, and he is always better then. She has only seen him when he is fairly controlled on medications. She has not seen the pressured speech, inability to sit still, and how he will argue just for the sake of arguing. The other day his daytrana patch got "wrinkled up" (difficult child speak for I scratched it but did not pull it off) so he was extremely hyper. He only showed the ADHD symptoms, not the mood symptoms. He argued with here, would not stop talking, would not let anyone else speak, and on the way out as she was talking he was playing catch with me with the car keys in the middle of the parking lot. He just threw the car keys at me. I had given them to him so he could go sit in the car and wait (he does that alot) but then he turned and threw them to me and yelled Catch. I was letting him get away with more than usual as I wanted her to see it. He is usually Mr. Perfect at her office. The whole time I am playing catch, she is telling me about a new psychiatrist in town that she is interested in having difficult child get a consult from. Guess he comes from UC Davis MIND institute and they specialize in neurodevelopmental disorders. I am not agains this and think it would be a good idea, but find it funny that she tells me this after she sees how difficult child is without his stimulant. Would she like to see him without stimulant or ms? He is doing the best he has ever done at school, only one office referral all year. He has not threatened to kill anyone, and has not been in one physical fight. He will tell you he does not want to get in trouble and be a bully. This from the kid who wanted to be a bully in 3rd grade cuz it was cool. This is the kid who had 8 office referrals in the same amt of time last year. I am taking difficult child's next appointment and have some questions for her. My main question is what would be gained by another evaluation? With husband being BiPolar (BP), the main concern tends to be a chaotic home life. Well, I know lots of kids who have 2 so called normal parents and have a more chaotic home life. Before husband was diagnosis'd and treated no one worried about it, and I can tell ya for sure home life was way way more chaotic then. Give someone a label and every thing changes. Thanks if you made it this far. For some reason this has been really bothering me, and I just needed to let it out.