that might help with some of our kids. I found a show on www.hulu.com that is show on tv on the National Geographic Channel. It is called Dogtown and is about the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary, the biggest animal sanctuary in the country (maybe the world?). They take in dogs that no one else will take, even ones that people think are untrainable. Before I watched it, right before, I read the post on General about non-stop talking. We endured that one for what seemed like eons. Wiz and thank you each did it for literally years. Right after Wiz outgrew it, thank you started it. They each even talked all night in their sleep. None of the docs believed it until they saw video of it (cause of course parents don't tell the truth, grrrrr). The episode I watched had a trainer working with a dog who barked constantly. In just a few months at the sanctuary he had been moved 5 times because he was just so hard to be around. Talk about something being put in front of you at a very good time! One thing the trainer did was ONLY interact with the dog when she was quiet. In this case the dog was emaciated and badly neglected when she was rescued. Her owners kept her chained outside and she had to bark to get any kind of anything. One of the trainers comments said something I wish I had heard back when I was in the thick of the problems. He commented that from the dog's point of view there was no problem behavior going on. He had to find out what motivated her and then use that to teach her that barking doesn't get what she wants. Given the emaciated state the dog was in when she arrived, the trainer thought that food would be what motivated her. Surprisingly, it wasn't. He walked around in one session with her food bowl. She was quiet, having already started to understand that he would walk away if she barked. Instead of keeping her attention on him and her food, the dog noticed her caretaker sweeping an area next to where they were working. The dog went nuts, barking and running along the fence, anything for that human attention and interaction. From that point they were able to make much more progress, to the point she was able to go on a home visit to see how she acted in a home setting, and other things. Maybe if we can remember this, keep it in our minds as we work with our kids on problems like constant talking and inappropriate attention seeking, we could make some changes. I KNOW this was about dogs, and they react differently than people in many ways. But I think some of these ideas could be helpful to us and our kids. The show also shows the dogs working and learning and how the people work and learn and care for them. I am positive that MANY of our kids would love the show. It is not fast paced like cartoons, anime, sitcoms, or whatever, so it could be a calm time to share as a family. Esp since we parents wouldn't have to worry about violence or sex or the other issues that come up in so many shows. Here is a link to the show on hulu - They have several episodes available right now, this is the episode with the non-stop barker, "Close Calls": http://www.hulu.com/watch/183362/dogtown-close-calls#s-p1-n4-so-i0 There is another episode about a dog named Shaggy who was born in the Grand Canyon and somehow survived until he was 5 years old! It is amazing.