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Here is the response after the meeting i got from the Disability Law Advocate: "you are in trouble"
We spent the first 1.5 hours revising the behavior plan. Actually went ok and our psychologist was a rock star. Really kept them focused. Principal kept trying to ask about the rights of other students and he kept saying that is not part of what we write in the behavior plan. His focus was clearly to get Q out of the school.
Plan was over, we added that an independent FBA would be done to help remediate the behaviors, not just react to them, (beyond what we are already doing)
they are going to get teh audiologist involved to look at an fm system
they are willing to do teh ave/eeg stuff during school once I get it arranged (can't do till Jan with new waiver plan IF it is approved)
well, we will see.
Law advocate has huge history with sp ed coordinator, not a good one. Their comments were comically polite to eachother.
THEN, principal says....I want to hear how Q is doing in school in general. (clearly had an agenda) now they flip all the stories o fhis doing well on this and that to well he has struggled for years. Psychologist says he has never done well. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? so I said, well then, are you telling me that this staff has been lying for two years? WE have all sat in these meetings wtih people saying he is making progress on x, y, z goals. psychiatric says, he doesn't do "big"... well really? he did big last year and all the years before. What was a disaster was when he did "small" school. I reminded them that I directly asked them over and over....IF you feel you want to bring up a change of placement, tell me now so I can research it because I will never agree to a middle of the year move. HE will lose the rest of the year due to the change. Now that we are changing medications, we will not be able to tell which things are causing which if we make any big life changes for him. The program they talked about they said was under change at the end of last year, they said no need to do that because no one feels that is an option. It wont happen. THIS is all because the principal wants it and they are changing their stories because he wants them to go along with him.
the program they talked about now has a new teacher new admin...blah blah it is wonderful. ONly four kids there, when a kid was tearing posters off teh wall they moved all the other kids out to calm him.
Ok, Q has never destroyed a room. BUT IF HE SAW THAT EVEN ONCE.... HE WOULD
I dont care if they took the kids out. FAct is it got attention and Q would obsess and then would do it.
Then it would go on and on while other kids improve and he gets worse and worse. This is what happened in the past, this is what happened in teh hospital and this is what will happen. they would have to really convince me that this would not happen EVER if i would ever agree to it. I told them in any event, not doing the inbetween things to try to improve things.... like the fact that their data showed with a specialized Ed Aide he did well and the day she left the data changed, we need to see the difference with that.
They said, well we just train the ones in the school. I reminded them the ones in the school were the ones who were already frustrated and saying they thought he had full control etc. they were teh ones who added comments when recording data like I am gonna show mr pulice this and you are gonna get suspended...etc.
They said Q is saying these things in the class and the other kids dont know aobut sex. HUH??? J (a year younger) is the one who taught Q to use the word. Teacher reported that when Q liked a girl in school they all teased him and J said "that means you want to have sex with her". Q thought it was funny and continued it but asked me at home, So mom? What is sex anyway? the as the year went on N added notes to Q saying how his mother didn't love him and he was never wanted and that A was really his girl friend and that Q just wanted to have sex with her etc. I called them out on that! SO UNFAIR to pin all the worlds evils on Q.
Then they said he is on his own bus becasue he was taunting a kid... HUH???? I was told he was on his own busses because the driver and aide refused to follow a behavior plan and they thought it would be more comforting for Q to ride his own bus. It was a "reward" which I told them really was to Q like being kicked off the bus. I said, really now you want to say that he HAD to be put on a separate bus??? WOW!
I made it clear they were in for a HUGE fight if they were going to try to move him during a year. I said I am willing to look at options ALWAYS at natural breaks. NOT in the middle of a school year when so much else is changing. This kid takes loss HARD. HE would lose all he knows and not be able to "graduate" with the 8th graders he has been with all this time. He does terrible with change. OOO I am burning.
Principal tried to say that the revised BIP would not carry over to a new school because no other administation would agree to this.... they have a different building etc. I said, HUH? OH yes it would . And law advocate said...UMMM Yes. it would. and sp ed coordinator said, yes it would. AND then he said... well then they should be in the planning now... they should say how it is done here so it can be brought there... EXCUSE ME??? I said, AHHH that is what transition meetings are for in the spring. That happens every time a kid changes schools, things need to change. We dont say well this plan can't happen in this building because it wouldn't work in any other building.
HOLY ****.... Law advocate is right, principal is a jerk and we are in trouble. THEY are in trouble.
She also told me that they are putting together a group complaint so I gave her the name and she told my friend who is having trouble in a transition plus program.... she wants her in it too. She got the district to provide a mentor who specializes in Aspergers to go with a kid to comm. college to help him function there.... right now my friend is being told that they dont do that and he has to be in this "functional class" after getting all A's and meeting general education graduation standards.
I am so disillusioned.
DAPE teacher cried. SHe really loves Q but she sees how he is suffering with them.... I am ready to throw up.
Principal said well what did they do in teh hospital, I said it is not like he went to the hospital for the small behaviors we see here.... he had a medication reaction and was not the Q we know. There is nothing they did there or that happened there that applies. Except that he learned some new stuff that we now have to try to extinguish. It was purely a medication adjustment.
Teacher said, well he did tons of work.... I said, yeah...true. 1:1 constantly... and he did the sheets... but they did nto teach or correct. He was presented with a sheet, and if he answered 19 to all of the 25 problems on the sheet, then they said good job and turned it in. It was not school, it was to help them do their home district school work.
Now principal is calling for monthly IEP meetings, no more core team meetings and he is in charge of them. I want to smack him.
We spent the first 1.5 hours revising the behavior plan. Actually went ok and our psychologist was a rock star. Really kept them focused. Principal kept trying to ask about the rights of other students and he kept saying that is not part of what we write in the behavior plan. His focus was clearly to get Q out of the school.
Plan was over, we added that an independent FBA would be done to help remediate the behaviors, not just react to them, (beyond what we are already doing)
they are going to get teh audiologist involved to look at an fm system
they are willing to do teh ave/eeg stuff during school once I get it arranged (can't do till Jan with new waiver plan IF it is approved)
well, we will see.
Law advocate has huge history with sp ed coordinator, not a good one. Their comments were comically polite to eachother.
THEN, principal says....I want to hear how Q is doing in school in general. (clearly had an agenda) now they flip all the stories o fhis doing well on this and that to well he has struggled for years. Psychologist says he has never done well. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? so I said, well then, are you telling me that this staff has been lying for two years? WE have all sat in these meetings wtih people saying he is making progress on x, y, z goals. psychiatric says, he doesn't do "big"... well really? he did big last year and all the years before. What was a disaster was when he did "small" school. I reminded them that I directly asked them over and over....IF you feel you want to bring up a change of placement, tell me now so I can research it because I will never agree to a middle of the year move. HE will lose the rest of the year due to the change. Now that we are changing medications, we will not be able to tell which things are causing which if we make any big life changes for him. The program they talked about they said was under change at the end of last year, they said no need to do that because no one feels that is an option. It wont happen. THIS is all because the principal wants it and they are changing their stories because he wants them to go along with him.
the program they talked about now has a new teacher new admin...blah blah it is wonderful. ONly four kids there, when a kid was tearing posters off teh wall they moved all the other kids out to calm him.
Ok, Q has never destroyed a room. BUT IF HE SAW THAT EVEN ONCE.... HE WOULD
I dont care if they took the kids out. FAct is it got attention and Q would obsess and then would do it.
Then it would go on and on while other kids improve and he gets worse and worse. This is what happened in the past, this is what happened in teh hospital and this is what will happen. they would have to really convince me that this would not happen EVER if i would ever agree to it. I told them in any event, not doing the inbetween things to try to improve things.... like the fact that their data showed with a specialized Ed Aide he did well and the day she left the data changed, we need to see the difference with that.
They said, well we just train the ones in the school. I reminded them the ones in the school were the ones who were already frustrated and saying they thought he had full control etc. they were teh ones who added comments when recording data like I am gonna show mr pulice this and you are gonna get suspended...etc.
They said Q is saying these things in the class and the other kids dont know aobut sex. HUH??? J (a year younger) is the one who taught Q to use the word. Teacher reported that when Q liked a girl in school they all teased him and J said "that means you want to have sex with her". Q thought it was funny and continued it but asked me at home, So mom? What is sex anyway? the as the year went on N added notes to Q saying how his mother didn't love him and he was never wanted and that A was really his girl friend and that Q just wanted to have sex with her etc. I called them out on that! SO UNFAIR to pin all the worlds evils on Q.
Then they said he is on his own bus becasue he was taunting a kid... HUH???? I was told he was on his own busses because the driver and aide refused to follow a behavior plan and they thought it would be more comforting for Q to ride his own bus. It was a "reward" which I told them really was to Q like being kicked off the bus. I said, really now you want to say that he HAD to be put on a separate bus??? WOW!
I made it clear they were in for a HUGE fight if they were going to try to move him during a year. I said I am willing to look at options ALWAYS at natural breaks. NOT in the middle of a school year when so much else is changing. This kid takes loss HARD. HE would lose all he knows and not be able to "graduate" with the 8th graders he has been with all this time. He does terrible with change. OOO I am burning.
Principal tried to say that the revised BIP would not carry over to a new school because no other administation would agree to this.... they have a different building etc. I said, HUH? OH yes it would . And law advocate said...UMMM Yes. it would. and sp ed coordinator said, yes it would. AND then he said... well then they should be in the planning now... they should say how it is done here so it can be brought there... EXCUSE ME??? I said, AHHH that is what transition meetings are for in the spring. That happens every time a kid changes schools, things need to change. We dont say well this plan can't happen in this building because it wouldn't work in any other building.
HOLY ****.... Law advocate is right, principal is a jerk and we are in trouble. THEY are in trouble.
She also told me that they are putting together a group complaint so I gave her the name and she told my friend who is having trouble in a transition plus program.... she wants her in it too. She got the district to provide a mentor who specializes in Aspergers to go with a kid to comm. college to help him function there.... right now my friend is being told that they dont do that and he has to be in this "functional class" after getting all A's and meeting general education graduation standards.
I am so disillusioned.
DAPE teacher cried. SHe really loves Q but she sees how he is suffering with them.... I am ready to throw up.
Principal said well what did they do in teh hospital, I said it is not like he went to the hospital for the small behaviors we see here.... he had a medication reaction and was not the Q we know. There is nothing they did there or that happened there that applies. Except that he learned some new stuff that we now have to try to extinguish. It was purely a medication adjustment.
Teacher said, well he did tons of work.... I said, yeah...true. 1:1 constantly... and he did the sheets... but they did nto teach or correct. He was presented with a sheet, and if he answered 19 to all of the 25 problems on the sheet, then they said good job and turned it in. It was not school, it was to help them do their home district school work.
Now principal is calling for monthly IEP meetings, no more core team meetings and he is in charge of them. I want to smack him.