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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 282233" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>DDD, that's a good point. Babies are always growing and changing, what works one week may no longer work the next. It's a matter of being able to observe te child and try to respond to what the child wants. They can't talk, and they do expect (until they are old enough to know better) that their mothers can read their minds!</p><p></p><p>A thought, on the baby's size - what was his birth weight? We had problems with easy child which nobody has been able to clarify until a few months ago. I had a brilliant, very observant gynaecologist who spotted a problem while I was pregant - he put me in hospital immediately and I was having tests every second day. The problem - placental insufficiency. She was basically malnourished before birth, the placenta was dying prematurely and as a result she was born underweight. She made up for it fast, she doubled her birthweight by 6 weeks.</p><p>You know how dieting too drasticallyslows your metabolism and can lead to insulin resistance? Well, I've been told by a doctor (whose daughter had the same problem) that our daughters' current weight problems (as in badly overweight) are due to this early bad start.</p><p></p><p>Another possible problem - again, I've seewn this but thankfully not personally. If there was any gestational diabetes (even if it was undetected) then the baby can be born accustomed to a higher than normal blood glucose level. It's like the opposite of what easy child had. I remember a baby I knew, his mother did not have good medical care during her pregnancy and in her next pregnancy she developed full-blown diabetes (which often happens when previous pregnancies' blood sugar levels are not well controlled). THis baby boy was always hungry. Unbeleivably hungry. Breast milk was no way enough, so she put him on formula almost imediately. By two weeks old he was still unable to be satisfied, so the baby was started on solids. It was the only way she could quiet him down. And the baby grew, and grew... He piled on the weight despite always screaming for more food. He was a very hungry baby.</p><p>Theory - he was hungry, because before birth he had been used to all the extra sugar his mother's blood had been pouring into him. After he was born his brain craved te same sugar level but since he had a normally functioning pancreas, attaining that level of blood sugar just wasn't possible without major bingeing.</p><p></p><p>Outcome - I last saw that boy when he was about 8 years old (the family moved away). He had a massive weight problem. He was such an overweight baby that he didn't walk until he was over two years old; his little legs simply couldn't pick him up. In other ways he was perfectly normal, but his mother had concerns about his weight. He was bullied a lot for his weight, I actually stopped a group of kids from attacking him and told them to leave him alone, it wasn't his fault.</p><p></p><p>Babies born to mothers with gestational diabetes are at risk of being badly overweight. If the diaetes isn't easily controlled (and this happens with gestational diabetes especially) then all the extra sugar in the mother's blood, goes onto the baby as fat. This can put both mother and baby at risk, the baby often has to be delivered by caesarean.</p><p></p><p>When I was in hospital on bed rest expecting easy child, I was on a ward full of women with gestational diabetes. I had it thoroughly explained to me. One woman had the most stable blood sugar levels, she was actually allowed to go home most weekends. Her blood sugars were well-controlled with insulin.</p><p>We found out why, later on - she didn't have gestational diabetes after all, she had pancreatic cancer. Her islets of Langerhans weren't simply temporarily misbehaving, they had been permanently destroyed. The woman was in a coma when the baby was delivered by caesarean; they turned off life-support after the surgery. Very sad. But because her condition had been well-managed (as far as blood sugar levels) her baby was normal in size and had no problems. We actually crossed paths with the family six months later, they attended the same church that husband's parents did, we found out all this at Christmas.</p><p></p><p>So consider his pre-natal history. How big was he when he was born? If he was much smaller than he shouldhave been, there could have been a placenta problem. If he was bigger than average, consider the possibility that his mother may have had a somewhat wonky pancreatic function; in which case, next pregnancy, she needs to ask the doctor to keep a close watch on her blood sugar levels and also to test her urine for sugar regularly. Getting it mildly in an earlier pregnancy often means getting a more obvious case next time. Gestational diabetes should resolve after the pregnancy, but does need to be loooked after. If there is a chance that this was a problem, it could explain him being hungry.</p><p></p><p>But then - I had no trace of diabetes during my pregnancy with difficult child 3, but he was born a hungry baby. However, I was able to produce enough milk for him. And I was able to keep him off solids until 6 months of age, I had enough milk and it was rich enough. </p><p></p><p>Just to make it clear - if there was a problem either with the placenta before birth, or with maternal diabetes in any way - it is no longer a problem FOR HIM. What would be the problem now, would be what his brain thinks he should have. If there is any concern here, talk to the doctor and consider asking to see a pediatric endocrinologist. But that would only be indicated if he already has a weight problem. Behaviour alone, I don't think it would be warranted.</p><p></p><p>I hope that isn't too confusing.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 282233, member: 1991"] DDD, that's a good point. Babies are always growing and changing, what works one week may no longer work the next. It's a matter of being able to observe te child and try to respond to what the child wants. They can't talk, and they do expect (until they are old enough to know better) that their mothers can read their minds! A thought, on the baby's size - what was his birth weight? We had problems with easy child which nobody has been able to clarify until a few months ago. I had a brilliant, very observant gynaecologist who spotted a problem while I was pregant - he put me in hospital immediately and I was having tests every second day. The problem - placental insufficiency. She was basically malnourished before birth, the placenta was dying prematurely and as a result she was born underweight. She made up for it fast, she doubled her birthweight by 6 weeks. You know how dieting too drasticallyslows your metabolism and can lead to insulin resistance? Well, I've been told by a doctor (whose daughter had the same problem) that our daughters' current weight problems (as in badly overweight) are due to this early bad start. Another possible problem - again, I've seewn this but thankfully not personally. If there was any gestational diabetes (even if it was undetected) then the baby can be born accustomed to a higher than normal blood glucose level. It's like the opposite of what easy child had. I remember a baby I knew, his mother did not have good medical care during her pregnancy and in her next pregnancy she developed full-blown diabetes (which often happens when previous pregnancies' blood sugar levels are not well controlled). THis baby boy was always hungry. Unbeleivably hungry. Breast milk was no way enough, so she put him on formula almost imediately. By two weeks old he was still unable to be satisfied, so the baby was started on solids. It was the only way she could quiet him down. And the baby grew, and grew... He piled on the weight despite always screaming for more food. He was a very hungry baby. Theory - he was hungry, because before birth he had been used to all the extra sugar his mother's blood had been pouring into him. After he was born his brain craved te same sugar level but since he had a normally functioning pancreas, attaining that level of blood sugar just wasn't possible without major bingeing. Outcome - I last saw that boy when he was about 8 years old (the family moved away). He had a massive weight problem. He was such an overweight baby that he didn't walk until he was over two years old; his little legs simply couldn't pick him up. In other ways he was perfectly normal, but his mother had concerns about his weight. He was bullied a lot for his weight, I actually stopped a group of kids from attacking him and told them to leave him alone, it wasn't his fault. Babies born to mothers with gestational diabetes are at risk of being badly overweight. If the diaetes isn't easily controlled (and this happens with gestational diabetes especially) then all the extra sugar in the mother's blood, goes onto the baby as fat. This can put both mother and baby at risk, the baby often has to be delivered by caesarean. When I was in hospital on bed rest expecting easy child, I was on a ward full of women with gestational diabetes. I had it thoroughly explained to me. One woman had the most stable blood sugar levels, she was actually allowed to go home most weekends. Her blood sugars were well-controlled with insulin. We found out why, later on - she didn't have gestational diabetes after all, she had pancreatic cancer. Her islets of Langerhans weren't simply temporarily misbehaving, they had been permanently destroyed. The woman was in a coma when the baby was delivered by caesarean; they turned off life-support after the surgery. Very sad. But because her condition had been well-managed (as far as blood sugar levels) her baby was normal in size and had no problems. We actually crossed paths with the family six months later, they attended the same church that husband's parents did, we found out all this at Christmas. So consider his pre-natal history. How big was he when he was born? If he was much smaller than he shouldhave been, there could have been a placenta problem. If he was bigger than average, consider the possibility that his mother may have had a somewhat wonky pancreatic function; in which case, next pregnancy, she needs to ask the doctor to keep a close watch on her blood sugar levels and also to test her urine for sugar regularly. Getting it mildly in an earlier pregnancy often means getting a more obvious case next time. Gestational diabetes should resolve after the pregnancy, but does need to be loooked after. If there is a chance that this was a problem, it could explain him being hungry. But then - I had no trace of diabetes during my pregnancy with difficult child 3, but he was born a hungry baby. However, I was able to produce enough milk for him. And I was able to keep him off solids until 6 months of age, I had enough milk and it was rich enough. Just to make it clear - if there was a problem either with the placenta before birth, or with maternal diabetes in any way - it is no longer a problem FOR HIM. What would be the problem now, would be what his brain thinks he should have. If there is any concern here, talk to the doctor and consider asking to see a pediatric endocrinologist. But that would only be indicated if he already has a weight problem. Behaviour alone, I don't think it would be warranted. I hope that isn't too confusing. Marg [/QUOTE]
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