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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 566164" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Terry, the 504 or IEP only applies if it specifically addresses the issue of late assignments. If it says that he gets different grading on late work or that he has extra time, then you can force the school to make the teacher follow that agreement. If the IEP or 504 does not have anything about late assignments or different deadlines, then there is nothing to enforce and the same rules apply to difficult child as to all other students.</p><p></p><p>I realize that learning is the issue. However, turning in assignments is part of the homework assignment. I have zero clue why all of a sudden this generation refuses to turn in work they have completed. I do know that it is now an epidemic in our schools. I don't think that it is okay. I think this sets our kids up to have a very hard time functioning in the real world, and that it results in workers and a society that thinks that each person should have their own rules. the last five times I was in the tag agency to renew a license or car tag there was some teen or twenty something who was all upset because they missed the deadline and had to pay extra or go take the driver's test(s) because their license or car tag expired and was too far past expiration to renew with-o either a big fine or testing or both. They also thought that tickets received for driving with-o tags or a license should be waived because they went and got the license or tags again. </p><p></p><p>in my opinion they learned this from the schools and parents who extended deadlines and gave credit for assignments that were late. It boggles my mind. Of course from jr high on, we didn't pass a class if we had any assignments not turned in. even ONE assignment worth one point that was outstanding mean you flunked the class. You did have two days past deadline to turn things in and get credit - lost one letter grade the first time, got half credit the second day, and no credit after that. Even if you got no credit, if it wasn't turned in you didn't pass the class. Period. School policy. </p><p></p><p>Guess hwat? We ended up with higher test scores and more National Merit and other academic scholarships than any previous classes ever had. We were also much more successful in college than previous classes were. We learned more and that was partly BECAUSE of these rules.</p><p></p><p>I don't think that every child should get unlimited extensions. I do think that some kids do need them. It is a balancing act, and it is tough to do. I hope that you can work somethng out so that difficult child won't shut down, but I also think he needs to accept responsibility for his grades and turning in his work. Sadly, I do NOT know how you accomplish this. there was a time when we had to just give up on Wiz' grades because he became so violent that it was not something I would confront. I don't know what your solution will be, but maybe natural consequences, which is having to repeat the class, is not a bad thing. </p><p></p><p>Only you and husband can figure out how to handle this, and whatever you decide you have my FULL support.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 566164, member: 1233"] Terry, the 504 or IEP only applies if it specifically addresses the issue of late assignments. If it says that he gets different grading on late work or that he has extra time, then you can force the school to make the teacher follow that agreement. If the IEP or 504 does not have anything about late assignments or different deadlines, then there is nothing to enforce and the same rules apply to difficult child as to all other students. I realize that learning is the issue. However, turning in assignments is part of the homework assignment. I have zero clue why all of a sudden this generation refuses to turn in work they have completed. I do know that it is now an epidemic in our schools. I don't think that it is okay. I think this sets our kids up to have a very hard time functioning in the real world, and that it results in workers and a society that thinks that each person should have their own rules. the last five times I was in the tag agency to renew a license or car tag there was some teen or twenty something who was all upset because they missed the deadline and had to pay extra or go take the driver's test(s) because their license or car tag expired and was too far past expiration to renew with-o either a big fine or testing or both. They also thought that tickets received for driving with-o tags or a license should be waived because they went and got the license or tags again. in my opinion they learned this from the schools and parents who extended deadlines and gave credit for assignments that were late. It boggles my mind. Of course from jr high on, we didn't pass a class if we had any assignments not turned in. even ONE assignment worth one point that was outstanding mean you flunked the class. You did have two days past deadline to turn things in and get credit - lost one letter grade the first time, got half credit the second day, and no credit after that. Even if you got no credit, if it wasn't turned in you didn't pass the class. Period. School policy. Guess hwat? We ended up with higher test scores and more National Merit and other academic scholarships than any previous classes ever had. We were also much more successful in college than previous classes were. We learned more and that was partly BECAUSE of these rules. I don't think that every child should get unlimited extensions. I do think that some kids do need them. It is a balancing act, and it is tough to do. I hope that you can work somethng out so that difficult child won't shut down, but I also think he needs to accept responsibility for his grades and turning in his work. Sadly, I do NOT know how you accomplish this. there was a time when we had to just give up on Wiz' grades because he became so violent that it was not something I would confront. I don't know what your solution will be, but maybe natural consequences, which is having to repeat the class, is not a bad thing. Only you and husband can figure out how to handle this, and whatever you decide you have my FULL support. [/QUOTE]
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