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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 172071" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I'm with you, Heather. Mind you, the first doctor may have been an idiot, he may have prescribed vicodin for endometriosis.</p><p></p><p>My bet is, Bozo either got her onto drugs or got her to get the vicodin so she could supply him with prescription drugs.</p><p></p><p>For vicodin to have done this much to her, she would surely have raised alarm bells with the prescribing doctor... unless there were more than one prescribing doctor and a lot of other drug use was also going on.</p><p></p><p>I was not taking morphine when I was pregnant with difficult child 3. I had been, however, taking a codeine/paracetamol mix with fairly high codeine levels. However, I cut my amount down and finally cut it out entirely, for the last three months of pregnancy. So I can't tell you of any problems with difficult child 3 and possible addiction at birth. He wasn't.</p><p></p><p>Another point - a big part of the reason I take morphine now (with paracetamol to potentiate the pain killing benefit of it) rather than other pain killers, is this is the medication regime that is kindest to my body. For addicts, opiates are not what does the damage. What REALLY messes up their bodies is not the opiate (heroin, morphine, vicodin, methadone - whatever) but the other rubbish they often take with it, if it's illicit, dirty, contaminated, infected, cut with various poisons etc. I actually have to be very careful of the paracetamol I take, because of the risk of liver damage. The morphine is very kind to my body.</p><p></p><p>An addict who is only taking prescription medication, taking it as prescribed, shouldn't be so sick.</p><p></p><p>So the niece has either been lying all along and the first doctor may have given her vicodin or she may have just SAID he did, or she could have told the truth initially (with an idiot doctor) and ten found herself with a desperate desire for more )especially if Bozo was taking her medications as well).</p><p></p><p>If the US is similar to Australia when it comes to supply of opiate medications legitimately, they will be doled out almost by the day. I can only get a month's supply at a time, and I can't go back to my doctor in under three weeks. I get 30 pills per prescription, no repeats. And no other doctor can regularly prescribe this medication, I have to go to a doctor I nominate, and this doctor has to apply to the government for permission to prescribe this to me, every time they write a prescription. Part of the doctor's permission is my records as a patient of a pain specialist.</p><p></p><p>I doubt niece is doing all this. Especially if her legitimate pills were disappearing faster than she could acquire them, she would have had to go underground for more fairly quickly. I suspect she would have quickly found that heroin is far more effective for pain, than vicodin.</p><p></p><p>The baby - yes, likely to be born addicted. But long-term damage to internal organs - not from the drugs themselves. But it is possible that niece's body IS being damaged, by the other rubbish her drugs are being cut with.</p><p></p><p>I do think the grandparents need to make enquiries about how to apply for custody. This girl could come back at any time and take her child LEGALLY and the grandparents couldn't stop her. Surely a lawyer could advise them on other ways to get around the system?</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 172071, member: 1991"] I'm with you, Heather. Mind you, the first doctor may have been an idiot, he may have prescribed vicodin for endometriosis. My bet is, Bozo either got her onto drugs or got her to get the vicodin so she could supply him with prescription drugs. For vicodin to have done this much to her, she would surely have raised alarm bells with the prescribing doctor... unless there were more than one prescribing doctor and a lot of other drug use was also going on. I was not taking morphine when I was pregnant with difficult child 3. I had been, however, taking a codeine/paracetamol mix with fairly high codeine levels. However, I cut my amount down and finally cut it out entirely, for the last three months of pregnancy. So I can't tell you of any problems with difficult child 3 and possible addiction at birth. He wasn't. Another point - a big part of the reason I take morphine now (with paracetamol to potentiate the pain killing benefit of it) rather than other pain killers, is this is the medication regime that is kindest to my body. For addicts, opiates are not what does the damage. What REALLY messes up their bodies is not the opiate (heroin, morphine, vicodin, methadone - whatever) but the other rubbish they often take with it, if it's illicit, dirty, contaminated, infected, cut with various poisons etc. I actually have to be very careful of the paracetamol I take, because of the risk of liver damage. The morphine is very kind to my body. An addict who is only taking prescription medication, taking it as prescribed, shouldn't be so sick. So the niece has either been lying all along and the first doctor may have given her vicodin or she may have just SAID he did, or she could have told the truth initially (with an idiot doctor) and ten found herself with a desperate desire for more )especially if Bozo was taking her medications as well). If the US is similar to Australia when it comes to supply of opiate medications legitimately, they will be doled out almost by the day. I can only get a month's supply at a time, and I can't go back to my doctor in under three weeks. I get 30 pills per prescription, no repeats. And no other doctor can regularly prescribe this medication, I have to go to a doctor I nominate, and this doctor has to apply to the government for permission to prescribe this to me, every time they write a prescription. Part of the doctor's permission is my records as a patient of a pain specialist. I doubt niece is doing all this. Especially if her legitimate pills were disappearing faster than she could acquire them, she would have had to go underground for more fairly quickly. I suspect she would have quickly found that heroin is far more effective for pain, than vicodin. The baby - yes, likely to be born addicted. But long-term damage to internal organs - not from the drugs themselves. But it is possible that niece's body IS being damaged, by the other rubbish her drugs are being cut with. I do think the grandparents need to make enquiries about how to apply for custody. This girl could come back at any time and take her child LEGALLY and the grandparents couldn't stop her. Surely a lawyer could advise them on other ways to get around the system? Marg [/QUOTE]
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