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thanks for answeing.now dont laugh i did watch super nanny last weekend an ddid see a few things that i will try.im going to use a house on paper and make it big and fun.he has to get so many checks in it to get something special.but everytine he does some thing wrong he will lose a check.i am going to do it for my other son as well even though i dont have as many promblems with him i thought if difficult child sees his chart it might help him to do better.i dont expect it to work right away but i will give it time ill let every one know how it did.