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<blockquote data-quote="confuzzled" data-source="post: 354945" data-attributes="member: 8831"><p>is he already 18? (then yea, your difficult child has way more imput than you do, sigh)</p><p> </p><p>but i wouldnt sign anything. they would be lucky they got me to sign that i "attended" such a debacle.</p><p> </p><p>while sue's points are very valid, an IEP still is a legal document, and by law, has to be implemented....i've never heard of he's "just a behavior problem"...if he needs services, he needs them. and quite frankly, if he has an IEP and not a 504, he must need something.</p><p> </p><p>first you need some goals, advanced college track or not. (any behavior can most certainly impact education, so thats baloney that he's just a "behavior problem"), and then you need to identify modifications and accomodations that your difficult child needs (small group testing, extra testing time, whatever it is you are fighting for) and the related services he needs to accomplish such (inschool counselling, peer group counselling, or whatever). and to comment on lets remove these because they are "middle school goals"....well, thats flat out absurd. has your difficult child accomplished such goals? (and if not, the school has some responsibility in that!).....i'm going out on a limb to guess some of these were organizationally related, but if your difficult child hasnt mastered it, then its still an appropriate goal....quite frankly, some of those organization goals *should* be a big focus for any difficult child, of any age...you kinda need to have some organizational skills to manage <em>life</em>.</p><p> </p><p>your SD violated federal law six ways to sunday....i'd suggest you hightail it over to a spEd forum (there's one here isnt there?) with people who are good with the very specifics of law and pick their brain...for starters, prior written notice does not mean a paper with an incorrect date on it <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>you may choose not to fight, and thats your right. in fact, i hear both of you loud and clear--i'm tired too--my husband constantly marvels at the literal incompetence i deal with in the SD on a regular basis. but you *do* want to help your difficult child, even if he doesnt <em>want</em> it. and if he's college bound, an IEP can make it easier to get accomodations for things like the SAT testing (if he needs it) and be helpful to pass on to his colleges office of disabilities to make it easier to get any other modifications/accomodations he needs there.</p><p> </p><p>(transition goals, like sue points out, arent always <em>reality based</em>, even though good ones should be, and as budgets change and services are cut it can be very difficult to do an realistic planning for life after grad/21....but they too can still be useful if done correctly, and if one of your difficult child's goals are to attend college, somewhere in the breakdown should be what he needs to do, what the school needs to do, and what services are needed to accomplish that goal---it can be enlightening to see what that path looks like, even for your difficult child. and it just might identify some untapped resource to get to that ivy league school..maybe your voc rehab can provide a service--and i dont mean teaching him some random skill like barbering or food service, LOL, maybe there is an agency that can find your difficult child a mentor thats an alumni from his college of choice---ok, lousy examples, but i just cant think of a great one now!. in YOUR case, i'd put money on the fact YOUR difficult child might have some interesting insights on what he needs to get to where he wants, and i think i'd really listen to what he has to say, and consider what the SD can do to help him make it happen)</p><p> </p><p>but i'm not convinced that letting your SD off the hook *now* is a great idea---take what you can from them while he's still a student....it gets a lot harder to fill their needs after they graduate!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="confuzzled, post: 354945, member: 8831"] is he already 18? (then yea, your difficult child has way more imput than you do, sigh) but i wouldnt sign anything. they would be lucky they got me to sign that i "attended" such a debacle. while sue's points are very valid, an IEP still is a legal document, and by law, has to be implemented....i've never heard of he's "just a behavior problem"...if he needs services, he needs them. and quite frankly, if he has an IEP and not a 504, he must need something. first you need some goals, advanced college track or not. (any behavior can most certainly impact education, so thats baloney that he's just a "behavior problem"), and then you need to identify modifications and accomodations that your difficult child needs (small group testing, extra testing time, whatever it is you are fighting for) and the related services he needs to accomplish such (inschool counselling, peer group counselling, or whatever). and to comment on lets remove these because they are "middle school goals"....well, thats flat out absurd. has your difficult child accomplished such goals? (and if not, the school has some responsibility in that!).....i'm going out on a limb to guess some of these were organizationally related, but if your difficult child hasnt mastered it, then its still an appropriate goal....quite frankly, some of those organization goals *should* be a big focus for any difficult child, of any age...you kinda need to have some organizational skills to manage [I]life[/I]. your SD violated federal law six ways to sunday....i'd suggest you hightail it over to a spEd forum (there's one here isnt there?) with people who are good with the very specifics of law and pick their brain...for starters, prior written notice does not mean a paper with an incorrect date on it :-) you may choose not to fight, and thats your right. in fact, i hear both of you loud and clear--i'm tired too--my husband constantly marvels at the literal incompetence i deal with in the SD on a regular basis. but you *do* want to help your difficult child, even if he doesnt [I]want[/I] it. and if he's college bound, an IEP can make it easier to get accomodations for things like the SAT testing (if he needs it) and be helpful to pass on to his colleges office of disabilities to make it easier to get any other modifications/accomodations he needs there. (transition goals, like sue points out, arent always [I]reality based[/I], even though good ones should be, and as budgets change and services are cut it can be very difficult to do an realistic planning for life after grad/21....but they too can still be useful if done correctly, and if one of your difficult child's goals are to attend college, somewhere in the breakdown should be what he needs to do, what the school needs to do, and what services are needed to accomplish that goal---it can be enlightening to see what that path looks like, even for your difficult child. and it just might identify some untapped resource to get to that ivy league school..maybe your voc rehab can provide a service--and i dont mean teaching him some random skill like barbering or food service, LOL, maybe there is an agency that can find your difficult child a mentor thats an alumni from his college of choice---ok, lousy examples, but i just cant think of a great one now!. in YOUR case, i'd put money on the fact YOUR difficult child might have some interesting insights on what he needs to get to where he wants, and i think i'd really listen to what he has to say, and consider what the SD can do to help him make it happen) but i'm not convinced that letting your SD off the hook *now* is a great idea---take what you can from them while he's still a student....it gets a lot harder to fill their needs after they graduate! [/QUOTE]
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