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<blockquote data-quote="GoingNorth" data-source="post: 722087" data-attributes="member: 1963"><p>I agree with leaving him out of future celebrations. I am also sorry for your embarassment, and for the others who had to endure his behavior.</p><p></p><p>On the subject of addiction vs. dependence, I have two things to say. One, for a year and a half after my husband died, i drank (for me) heavily. I got up to 3-4 beers a night. One night, I realized I was heading for trouble and just quit. I had a worsening of anxiety for a couple of weeks and then dropped back to my usual level of anxiety. I didn't drink at all for a few years, and now joke about placing my yearly order for craft brewed meads and ciders (6 500ml bottles. I use wine bottle stoppers, as a half liter of strong cider or mead would floor me.) My mother was a heavy drinker who also was able to quit and can drink very occasionally like me. My sister is an alcoholic who once she starts, doesn't stop until she either passes out or there is no more left to drink. My maternal grandfather was an alcoholic who went into rehab in the 70's. He succeeded due to his aspie rigidity. Once he made a decision, that was IT. However, being a rabbi, wine was sort of unavoidable. He found a company in Israel that made grape juice Kosher for sacramental use, and for many years nobody knew that the rabbi's fancy cup had grape juice and not wine in it. I also have a cousin who became dependent and was able to quit and only drink moderately and occasionally. It's definitely genetic on my mother's side. Interestingly, on my father's side, where the bipolar comes from, they're all teetotalers, except for religious occasions that require wine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GoingNorth, post: 722087, member: 1963"] I agree with leaving him out of future celebrations. I am also sorry for your embarassment, and for the others who had to endure his behavior. On the subject of addiction vs. dependence, I have two things to say. One, for a year and a half after my husband died, i drank (for me) heavily. I got up to 3-4 beers a night. One night, I realized I was heading for trouble and just quit. I had a worsening of anxiety for a couple of weeks and then dropped back to my usual level of anxiety. I didn't drink at all for a few years, and now joke about placing my yearly order for craft brewed meads and ciders (6 500ml bottles. I use wine bottle stoppers, as a half liter of strong cider or mead would floor me.) My mother was a heavy drinker who also was able to quit and can drink very occasionally like me. My sister is an alcoholic who once she starts, doesn't stop until she either passes out or there is no more left to drink. My maternal grandfather was an alcoholic who went into rehab in the 70's. He succeeded due to his aspie rigidity. Once he made a decision, that was IT. However, being a rabbi, wine was sort of unavoidable. He found a company in Israel that made grape juice Kosher for sacramental use, and for many years nobody knew that the rabbi's fancy cup had grape juice and not wine in it. I also have a cousin who became dependent and was able to quit and only drink moderately and occasionally. It's definitely genetic on my mother's side. Interestingly, on my father's side, where the bipolar comes from, they're all teetotalers, except for religious occasions that require wine. [/QUOTE]
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