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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 216666" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Honestly, I really think you need to find a lockdown drug/alcohol rehab if you want any hope of getting her off drugs. You have been trying since before September and she currently has 10days. This is a huge testament to YOU and your determination, as she doesnt' seem to want to be sober/straight. IF she is Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) she may or may not be capable of getting sober. I really don't know the effect of Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) on getting sober/straight.</p><p> </p><p>If there is ANY chance of Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE)/Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS), then the chances go down even more that she iwll be able to choose to get and stay clean. As MWM said, with fetal alcohol the issue is that the child CANNOT learn, not that they CHOOSE not to learn. Their brain simply isn't able to.</p><p> </p><p>Whatever is going on, has she been evaluated for Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) or other Autistic Spectrum Disorders? these include Autism, High Functioning Autism, Pervasive Developmental Disorder, Asperger's Syndrome and probably some things I am not aware of. There is a school of thought that thinks ADHD is on the spectrum of autistic disorders, though the general school of thought is out on this.</p><p> </p><p>It seems to me your daughter is in crisis. She wants what she wants, when she wants it. IF she cannot achieve some degree of freedom from drugs/alcohol she will not ever be able to get out from under the legal issues, she will just keep piling htem up. She also may kill someone when she decides to take a car and drive, regardless of if she knows how to drive or if she is sober. ANY time she is behind the wheel of a car she is using a lethal weapon. If she is using and gets behind the wheel she is immeasurably more dangerous to everyone on the road. </p><p> </p><p>You need to look for some kind of dual-diagnosis treatment. Dual Diagnosis meaning drug/alcohol abuse and mental illness. You can have her further evaluated once she is there. I wish I could say you will have luck with an outpatient setting, but I really do not think you iwll. There is just too much against this, esp the black and white thinking and impulsivity. </p><p> </p><p>While she is at home you and your husband need to find ALL the keys to ALL the vehicles. Install strong KEY locks on your bedroom door and use them at all times. EVERY key needs to be in this room - search her room and every other room to find all the keys. You also may want to question her friends if seh may have given keys to them to hold for her. Keys should be around your neck or in FRONT pockets if they are not locked up. </p><p> </p><p>Until your daughter has quite a long period of sobriety (years, not months or weeks) she should not be given any access to car keys. There are parents who have been on this board who had to sleep with keys on their person to keep children from stealing their cars.</p><p> </p><p>Does the psychiatrist have any suggestion of rtcs for you? Many time sthe Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is more effective if it is NOT close to home, simply because if it is close to home the child can run to familiar surroundings/friends. But the BEST Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is one that fits your child, not one chosen for its location. Your daughter has such a list of serious charges against her, that even ONE more may have the system charging her as an adult and sentencing her to serious jail time. I would like to think it isn't so, but it IS a possibility. One teen on this board is facing a possible 15 years in adult prison! And his charges are far less likely to have resulted in hurting someone - any of htem is. </p><p> </p><p>I hope we can provide some help with all you are going through. You are clearly trying to do all you can to help and protect your child, as well as working to understand what problems are contributing to the entire situation.</p><p> </p><p>I am gald you are here, but so very sorry you are coping with this entire set of problems. Sending you lots of hugs!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 216666, member: 1233"] Honestly, I really think you need to find a lockdown drug/alcohol rehab if you want any hope of getting her off drugs. You have been trying since before September and she currently has 10days. This is a huge testament to YOU and your determination, as she doesnt' seem to want to be sober/straight. IF she is Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) she may or may not be capable of getting sober. I really don't know the effect of Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) on getting sober/straight. If there is ANY chance of Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE)/Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS), then the chances go down even more that she iwll be able to choose to get and stay clean. As MWM said, with fetal alcohol the issue is that the child CANNOT learn, not that they CHOOSE not to learn. Their brain simply isn't able to. Whatever is going on, has she been evaluated for Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) or other Autistic Spectrum Disorders? these include Autism, High Functioning Autism, Pervasive Developmental Disorder, Asperger's Syndrome and probably some things I am not aware of. There is a school of thought that thinks ADHD is on the spectrum of autistic disorders, though the general school of thought is out on this. It seems to me your daughter is in crisis. She wants what she wants, when she wants it. IF she cannot achieve some degree of freedom from drugs/alcohol she will not ever be able to get out from under the legal issues, she will just keep piling htem up. She also may kill someone when she decides to take a car and drive, regardless of if she knows how to drive or if she is sober. ANY time she is behind the wheel of a car she is using a lethal weapon. If she is using and gets behind the wheel she is immeasurably more dangerous to everyone on the road. You need to look for some kind of dual-diagnosis treatment. Dual Diagnosis meaning drug/alcohol abuse and mental illness. You can have her further evaluated once she is there. I wish I could say you will have luck with an outpatient setting, but I really do not think you iwll. There is just too much against this, esp the black and white thinking and impulsivity. While she is at home you and your husband need to find ALL the keys to ALL the vehicles. Install strong KEY locks on your bedroom door and use them at all times. EVERY key needs to be in this room - search her room and every other room to find all the keys. You also may want to question her friends if seh may have given keys to them to hold for her. Keys should be around your neck or in FRONT pockets if they are not locked up. Until your daughter has quite a long period of sobriety (years, not months or weeks) she should not be given any access to car keys. There are parents who have been on this board who had to sleep with keys on their person to keep children from stealing their cars. Does the psychiatrist have any suggestion of rtcs for you? Many time sthe Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is more effective if it is NOT close to home, simply because if it is close to home the child can run to familiar surroundings/friends. But the BEST Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is one that fits your child, not one chosen for its location. Your daughter has such a list of serious charges against her, that even ONE more may have the system charging her as an adult and sentencing her to serious jail time. I would like to think it isn't so, but it IS a possibility. One teen on this board is facing a possible 15 years in adult prison! And his charges are far less likely to have resulted in hurting someone - any of htem is. I hope we can provide some help with all you are going through. You are clearly trying to do all you can to help and protect your child, as well as working to understand what problems are contributing to the entire situation. I am gald you are here, but so very sorry you are coping with this entire set of problems. Sending you lots of hugs! [/QUOTE]
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