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<blockquote data-quote="Mamaof5" data-source="post: 399565"><p>Under the constitution you don't have to 1. let them in without a warrant, 2. even speak to them or 3. let them see your kid at all without parental presence or at all in the first place. They need a warrant to walk in your house. The first thing you do is "SHUT UP" as most of the advocates say. Say nothing outside of the line of questioning, say nothing at all but "I'd like to co-operate with you amicably but not without a warrant and not without my lawyer".</p><p></p><p>At least that's what's reccommended. Me, if I have nothing to hide, I don't hide. Out of the 5 calls I've had to deal with with our version of CPS (CAS), 4 were spite calls. Yup, one was legit. I asked for voluntary help and kingship care in 2005 (only had three at the time, found out I was pregnant with the fourth during the 20 months they were involved voluntarily). Now I'm on their radar, I've had evil sister in law call and make a false report to try and keep us from moving up north (she'll vehemently deny this but her behaviors and what was said in the report lead to her).</p><p></p><p>Another thing I'd do if I were is to document it all, get all copies of medical records in hand and document every face to face, email or phone call or visit with CPS. Send a registered mail letter outlining the visit, email, phone call or face to face meeting to the worker and their supervisor and CC the director so that your side of the case is well documented as well. Sign nothing and have them do everything in writing as well as verbally. I'd even suggest checking on your laws in your state (and Oregon's as well) about one party knowledge voice\video recording. If they have a by law that says you can do this without telling them - do so. if you have to tell them a red flag should shoot out if they refuse recording the meeting or anything.</p><p></p><p>I'm not for scrapping CPS\CAS but I am for informed, accountable and responsible child welfare. Here in Ontario we are the only province without Ombudsman oversight of the CAS which is a private corporation that has to follow both the CFSA and Corporations Act. We've had problems with most of the 53 CAS offices across province with misappropriated funds, strong arm tactics and lact of transparency and accountability. It sucks but reform is coming soon too, the Ombudsman (Andre Marin) will soon have jurisdiction over them along with senior homes, hospitals and schools\school boards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mamaof5, post: 399565"] Under the constitution you don't have to 1. let them in without a warrant, 2. even speak to them or 3. let them see your kid at all without parental presence or at all in the first place. They need a warrant to walk in your house. The first thing you do is "SHUT UP" as most of the advocates say. Say nothing outside of the line of questioning, say nothing at all but "I'd like to co-operate with you amicably but not without a warrant and not without my lawyer". At least that's what's reccommended. Me, if I have nothing to hide, I don't hide. Out of the 5 calls I've had to deal with with our version of CPS (CAS), 4 were spite calls. Yup, one was legit. I asked for voluntary help and kingship care in 2005 (only had three at the time, found out I was pregnant with the fourth during the 20 months they were involved voluntarily). Now I'm on their radar, I've had evil sister in law call and make a false report to try and keep us from moving up north (she'll vehemently deny this but her behaviors and what was said in the report lead to her). Another thing I'd do if I were is to document it all, get all copies of medical records in hand and document every face to face, email or phone call or visit with CPS. Send a registered mail letter outlining the visit, email, phone call or face to face meeting to the worker and their supervisor and CC the director so that your side of the case is well documented as well. Sign nothing and have them do everything in writing as well as verbally. I'd even suggest checking on your laws in your state (and Oregon's as well) about one party knowledge voice\video recording. If they have a by law that says you can do this without telling them - do so. if you have to tell them a red flag should shoot out if they refuse recording the meeting or anything. I'm not for scrapping CPS\CAS but I am for informed, accountable and responsible child welfare. Here in Ontario we are the only province without Ombudsman oversight of the CAS which is a private corporation that has to follow both the CFSA and Corporations Act. We've had problems with most of the 53 CAS offices across province with misappropriated funds, strong arm tactics and lact of transparency and accountability. It sucks but reform is coming soon too, the Ombudsman (Andre Marin) will soon have jurisdiction over them along with senior homes, hospitals and schools\school boards. [/QUOTE]
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