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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 399608" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>In NY it is illegal to record a conversation to which you are not a party. IF you are one of the parties in the conversation you have EVERY right to record the conversation and DO NOT have to tell the other party or parties. Here is a website with the laws for NY: <a href="http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/newyork.html" target="_blank">http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/newyork.html</a></p><p> </p><p>In Oregon it is the same - penalties are different as are court cases on the subject - and it is illegal for a third party to obtain recordings/transcripts of a conversation over radio or phone that they are not a party to with-o the permission of one of the parties. </p><p> </p><p>Record any/all interactions. Do try to keep your temper. Call and explain that you were sleep deprived because part of your daughter's ILLNESS has her up most of the night and requiring your awake presence. Let them know that she has been under a doctors care for MONTHS, that in state (or in area) hospitalization has been attempted and has failed and traumatized her horribly. This is why you are accepting the recommendation of the doctors and taking her across the entire NATION to a specialized treatment program for her <em>life threatening eating disorder</em> - let them know that this is not the common anorexia or bulimia but a vastly more complicated eating disorder which CANNOT be treated by any of the doctors in your area.</p><p> </p><p>Be calm, if possible notify them in writing. Even better, consult your attorney or call legal aid. CPS has a responsibility to investigate in cases where a child is withdrawn from school due to illness if the school suspects problems (presence of tutors should show that she is in no way neglected - not medically, educationally, or in any other way. </p><p> </p><p>If husband's ex has made the report she is shooting herself in the foot. Spite reports, such as this which may have been done because your husband wanted to refinance property she owns jointly with him, make CPS view the reporter VERY negatively - esp if they are asked to consult on later custody issues. I know people who have experienced this here and in OH.</p><p> </p><p>Whatever you do, work to not "flip" or lose your temper at the investigators. Be calm and insist on your attorney's presence. I would NOT let them talk to your child with-o you. When they were investigating us because Wiz' abuse of Jessie we made the mistake of letting the SW speak to her with-o us. Thankfully the principal insisted on being there and made the woman stop when she went to far. That sw actually convinced Jessie that she "deserved" to have her older brother wake her up in the middle of the night as he tried to strangle her, and all the other ways he abused her. The principal complained loudly enough and got our pediatrician to join her complaints so that the woman was fired for doing that to kids. So make SURE your child has a parent or attorney with her to protect her. Many sw's work tirelessly at a truly awful job but there are also those who are poorly trained and do NOT belong in that position.</p><p> </p><p>Print off her facebook page so that you have it if you need it in the future. Also get printouts of the texts, etc.. that she sends. You may need them in a future custody battle as it sounds like she may want to set you and husband up for a custody battle. I O she should feel BLESSED that her kids have a mom, a dad, a stepmom and another stepmom (if that is what her partner is called) who loves them dearly. Hopefully you won't ever NEED to show all her tactics in court - but better to have the evidence and not need it than to need and not have. Do your BEST to NOT react to her in anger - it is what she wants and she IS saving any/all angry messages as evidence that you are unfit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 399608, member: 1233"] In NY it is illegal to record a conversation to which you are not a party. IF you are one of the parties in the conversation you have EVERY right to record the conversation and DO NOT have to tell the other party or parties. Here is a website with the laws for NY: [URL]http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/newyork.html[/URL] In Oregon it is the same - penalties are different as are court cases on the subject - and it is illegal for a third party to obtain recordings/transcripts of a conversation over radio or phone that they are not a party to with-o the permission of one of the parties. Record any/all interactions. Do try to keep your temper. Call and explain that you were sleep deprived because part of your daughter's ILLNESS has her up most of the night and requiring your awake presence. Let them know that she has been under a doctors care for MONTHS, that in state (or in area) hospitalization has been attempted and has failed and traumatized her horribly. This is why you are accepting the recommendation of the doctors and taking her across the entire NATION to a specialized treatment program for her [I]life threatening eating disorder[/I] - let them know that this is not the common anorexia or bulimia but a vastly more complicated eating disorder which CANNOT be treated by any of the doctors in your area. Be calm, if possible notify them in writing. Even better, consult your attorney or call legal aid. CPS has a responsibility to investigate in cases where a child is withdrawn from school due to illness if the school suspects problems (presence of tutors should show that she is in no way neglected - not medically, educationally, or in any other way. If husband's ex has made the report she is shooting herself in the foot. Spite reports, such as this which may have been done because your husband wanted to refinance property she owns jointly with him, make CPS view the reporter VERY negatively - esp if they are asked to consult on later custody issues. I know people who have experienced this here and in OH. Whatever you do, work to not "flip" or lose your temper at the investigators. Be calm and insist on your attorney's presence. I would NOT let them talk to your child with-o you. When they were investigating us because Wiz' abuse of Jessie we made the mistake of letting the SW speak to her with-o us. Thankfully the principal insisted on being there and made the woman stop when she went to far. That sw actually convinced Jessie that she "deserved" to have her older brother wake her up in the middle of the night as he tried to strangle her, and all the other ways he abused her. The principal complained loudly enough and got our pediatrician to join her complaints so that the woman was fired for doing that to kids. So make SURE your child has a parent or attorney with her to protect her. Many sw's work tirelessly at a truly awful job but there are also those who are poorly trained and do NOT belong in that position. Print off her facebook page so that you have it if you need it in the future. Also get printouts of the texts, etc.. that she sends. You may need them in a future custody battle as it sounds like she may want to set you and husband up for a custody battle. I O she should feel BLESSED that her kids have a mom, a dad, a stepmom and another stepmom (if that is what her partner is called) who loves them dearly. Hopefully you won't ever NEED to show all her tactics in court - but better to have the evidence and not need it than to need and not have. Do your BEST to NOT react to her in anger - it is what she wants and she IS saving any/all angry messages as evidence that you are unfit. [/QUOTE]
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