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difficult child 13-yr old son diagnosis with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) ODD ADHD Bipolar & I am at my wit's end
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<blockquote data-quote="exhausted" data-source="post: 424703" data-attributes="member: 11001"><p>Welcome first of all. </p><p> Your son has many of the same issues as my daughter had at that age. She however, is not on the spectrum. We have had the BiPolar (BP) diagnosis before, but it didn't fit in any way and the medications made her loopy and aggresive, a normally nonphysical kid. Some antidepressants can do this as well. We also had the ADHD diagnosis-which my older son has, the medications caused blurred vision in her. We tried a different medication-nonstimulant- and it did not correct the impulse problem or the lack of attention. My daughter too can be very nice and pleasing when she wants something or things are going her way.(walking on eggshells- is something that parents with borderline personailty kids talk about) I don't see this trait in the Asperger kids I teach. I'm no expert here but, I'm at a science charter school so we have a large population of these kids. I've never seen this trait except outright manipulation that was very unsophisticated, and lacked a deviant edge. My kid's manipulation is edgy and very sophisticated.</p><p> </p><p>You know him best and if you think he does show these traits, I would ask the psychiatrist to assess this as treatment for Asp. is very different. </p><p> </p><p> My daughter doesn't fit in very well and has few friends as well. This is because she is gifted and also a large kid(differenty) Her PTSD issues (the only diagnosis that fits 100%) keep her out of the loop as well (she is untrusting and moody). Being socially out of the loop causes so many issues. Kids are mean to each other and can be unaccepting and lacking in compassion at this age.</p><p> </p><p>The running away and being with a total stranger is very concerning. My difficult child is a runner. She has been raped as a result (thus PTSD). What happened to your boy when he was out? Is he using other substances? I would have sworn my difficult child was clean at 13, we found out she was smoking pot at least weekly! Do Asperger kids do these kinds of things as well? None of the ones I have taught over the last 15 years (when it has come to the forefront) have done these things? But... it should be looked into.</p><p> </p><p>I understand exhaustion. My child did 18 months in an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) after 2 years of counseling. When she came out worse than ever, we were forced to seek the help of the state.(We were broke after Residential Treatment Center (RTC)) That meant we had to call the police until a charge stuck and we could get before a judge. We tried to get help before this but no dice-they said we had to be in the juvenile justice system or she had to be so insane she could be admitted to the state hospital. Now I have to micromanage every step as they don't take care of kids very well in this state. I don't know what is worse, managing her at home and worrying every time she runs, or worrying 24/7 that the state is taking care of her.</p><p> </p><p>I don't talk to my coworkers much about my kids. Everyone is a judge. Noone, except parents who have been through this hell get it. It's the opposite of "casting pearls before swine". Unless they have raised a mentally ill kid with such oppositional traits.....(They should really be quiet)</p><p> </p><p>One of the things I've learned at NAMI is that diagnosing kids and adolescents is difficult. Often these diagnosis change over time, knowledge, research and current trends, and the humans who diagnose. I refuse to look at my child as the diagnosis- but rather look at her needs and address those. Can't say that always works either. Sigh!</p><p> </p><p>This is a nice place. Keep us posted and I hope you get support you feel good about. Hugs</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="exhausted, post: 424703, member: 11001"] Welcome first of all. Your son has many of the same issues as my daughter had at that age. She however, is not on the spectrum. We have had the BiPolar (BP) diagnosis before, but it didn't fit in any way and the medications made her loopy and aggresive, a normally nonphysical kid. Some antidepressants can do this as well. We also had the ADHD diagnosis-which my older son has, the medications caused blurred vision in her. We tried a different medication-nonstimulant- and it did not correct the impulse problem or the lack of attention. My daughter too can be very nice and pleasing when she wants something or things are going her way.(walking on eggshells- is something that parents with borderline personailty kids talk about) I don't see this trait in the Asperger kids I teach. I'm no expert here but, I'm at a science charter school so we have a large population of these kids. I've never seen this trait except outright manipulation that was very unsophisticated, and lacked a deviant edge. My kid's manipulation is edgy and very sophisticated. You know him best and if you think he does show these traits, I would ask the psychiatrist to assess this as treatment for Asp. is very different. My daughter doesn't fit in very well and has few friends as well. This is because she is gifted and also a large kid(differenty) Her PTSD issues (the only diagnosis that fits 100%) keep her out of the loop as well (she is untrusting and moody). Being socially out of the loop causes so many issues. Kids are mean to each other and can be unaccepting and lacking in compassion at this age. The running away and being with a total stranger is very concerning. My difficult child is a runner. She has been raped as a result (thus PTSD). What happened to your boy when he was out? Is he using other substances? I would have sworn my difficult child was clean at 13, we found out she was smoking pot at least weekly! Do Asperger kids do these kinds of things as well? None of the ones I have taught over the last 15 years (when it has come to the forefront) have done these things? But... it should be looked into. I understand exhaustion. My child did 18 months in an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) after 2 years of counseling. When she came out worse than ever, we were forced to seek the help of the state.(We were broke after Residential Treatment Center (RTC)) That meant we had to call the police until a charge stuck and we could get before a judge. We tried to get help before this but no dice-they said we had to be in the juvenile justice system or she had to be so insane she could be admitted to the state hospital. Now I have to micromanage every step as they don't take care of kids very well in this state. I don't know what is worse, managing her at home and worrying every time she runs, or worrying 24/7 that the state is taking care of her. I don't talk to my coworkers much about my kids. Everyone is a judge. Noone, except parents who have been through this hell get it. It's the opposite of "casting pearls before swine". Unless they have raised a mentally ill kid with such oppositional traits.....(They should really be quiet) One of the things I've learned at NAMI is that diagnosing kids and adolescents is difficult. Often these diagnosis change over time, knowledge, research and current trends, and the humans who diagnose. I refuse to look at my child as the diagnosis- but rather look at her needs and address those. Can't say that always works either. Sigh! This is a nice place. Keep us posted and I hope you get support you feel good about. Hugs [/QUOTE]
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