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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 355405" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Thanks everyone- for the support and hugs.</p><p></p><p>I think the issue is going to be mental health treatment- or lack thereof. The judge last year couldn't order a psychiatric Residential Treatment Center (RTC) without support of gal and po, who refused to back it up. So the judge committed difficult child to Department of Juvenile Justice and in her court order, included mental health treatment for him. That neew prosecuting attny asked for me to be given a mental health evaluation. I feel sure that the gal instigated that because there would be no reason otherwise when we were there for difficult child pulling a knife on me. Well, difficult child came out of Department of Juvenile Justice on no medications and the BiPolar (BP) diagnosis removed and the PO has not ordered any mental health treatment because of that and because if he does, it requires it to be provided by our mental health dept or me getting it private and I don't have insurance and I generally buck our local mental health dept. Furthermore, PO knows I'm burnt out on tdocs because between them not knowing what to do and difficult child not opening up, it has been a waste of time. It's not that big of deal if the judge orders difficult child to go to a therapist though, except they will have to provide it as I can't afford to do it privately anymore. The issues at the mental health dept though are that we end up spending half the day there for a 45 min appointment, they try to always make sure the kid sees whatever therapist they saw there in the past and difficult child's therapist there a few years ago was VERY incompetent, they lost difficult child's file, and I just got fed upo with them because of all this- I have no faith in them and they let the people from the courts tell them what diagnosis to treat the kid for which seems like the tail wagging the dog to me. It would either be that or back to the MST and that was a joke that I saw as only enabling difficult child.</p><p></p><p>I think the problem stems from half the people believing that difficult child has no mental health issues at all and I was just using that aavenue to cover for him and keep him from being puninshed and the real problem is that I have mental health issues that I refuse to do anything about and I need help with parenting skills because I've let my kid get out of control. (This would be the previous PO and GAL- and possibly now the prosecuting attny because she requested a mental health evaluation on me before which I refused under those circumstancees so the gal filed a show cause which disappeared but now might resurface.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Then, the other people believe that difficult child does have mental health issues but I won't follow therapist's and psychiatrist's recommendations. That wasn't true- it was that the po and gal wanted to dictate that therapy be given for the first scenario I described instead of supporting what the tdocs and psychiatrists recommended for difficult child- I was trying to follow THOSE recommendations. The Department of Juvenile Justice facility tried to do as much as they had resources for to follow those recommendations from the psychiatric hospital but they couldn't do everything a psychiatric Residential Treatment Center (RTC) could. So the question will be what to do now- and that will be based on whatever this new judge is convinced of- the first scenario or the second. He already asked about difficult child's mental health treatment during the arraignment and the PO told him that he hadn't ordered any because difficult child didn't come out with recommendations in that area, the BiPolar (BP) diagnosis had been removed and difficult child was taken off medications- by Department of Juvenile Justice NOT me. So this already opens the door for the prosecuting attny to revisit the "well then the problem must be the mother" issue. Never mind that just because difficult child is apparently not BiPolar (BP) doesn't automatically mean that he doesn't have issues. But him having issues doesn't mean that a therapist can do anything about them because we have tried that for over 4 years. PO knows that I'm trying to get difficult child to open up more about his issues so a therapist might be able to help him and I've asked PO to discuss this with difficult child, too. But if they turn this back into the blame the parent game we are going to have an issue. Again. It wouoldn't surprise me if they order us to the public mental health dept to completely start over with evaluations- ditching eeverything from the previous evaluations which were more thorough than our local dept would ever give and we get stuck getting treatment based on whatever the courts people say the problem is. Fortunately, I don't think this PO sees me as having mental problems that are causing difficult child to make bad choices but PO has already told the judge that he doesn't know about that side of things because he was not involved in this situation when difficult child was receiving mental health treatment before.</p><p></p><p>The issue regarding my mental health treatment and/or if difficult child should be living at home with me- well, then that is where I have no choice but to tell them all the family stuff from years ago so they know that I did go to therapy before, this is the problem I dealt with, it got resolved, and difficult child should NEVER be sent to live with another family member, which is the only choice dss has if difficult child is removed from home and not in Department of Juvenile Justice.</p><p></p><p>Sorry this became so long and rambling...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 355405, member: 3699"] Thanks everyone- for the support and hugs. I think the issue is going to be mental health treatment- or lack thereof. The judge last year couldn't order a psychiatric Residential Treatment Center (RTC) without support of gal and po, who refused to back it up. So the judge committed difficult child to Department of Juvenile Justice and in her court order, included mental health treatment for him. That neew prosecuting attny asked for me to be given a mental health evaluation. I feel sure that the gal instigated that because there would be no reason otherwise when we were there for difficult child pulling a knife on me. Well, difficult child came out of Department of Juvenile Justice on no medications and the BiPolar (BP) diagnosis removed and the PO has not ordered any mental health treatment because of that and because if he does, it requires it to be provided by our mental health dept or me getting it private and I don't have insurance and I generally buck our local mental health dept. Furthermore, PO knows I'm burnt out on tdocs because between them not knowing what to do and difficult child not opening up, it has been a waste of time. It's not that big of deal if the judge orders difficult child to go to a therapist though, except they will have to provide it as I can't afford to do it privately anymore. The issues at the mental health dept though are that we end up spending half the day there for a 45 min appointment, they try to always make sure the kid sees whatever therapist they saw there in the past and difficult child's therapist there a few years ago was VERY incompetent, they lost difficult child's file, and I just got fed upo with them because of all this- I have no faith in them and they let the people from the courts tell them what diagnosis to treat the kid for which seems like the tail wagging the dog to me. It would either be that or back to the MST and that was a joke that I saw as only enabling difficult child. I think the problem stems from half the people believing that difficult child has no mental health issues at all and I was just using that aavenue to cover for him and keep him from being puninshed and the real problem is that I have mental health issues that I refuse to do anything about and I need help with parenting skills because I've let my kid get out of control. (This would be the previous PO and GAL- and possibly now the prosecuting attny because she requested a mental health evaluation on me before which I refused under those circumstancees so the gal filed a show cause which disappeared but now might resurface.) Then, the other people believe that difficult child does have mental health issues but I won't follow therapist's and psychiatrist's recommendations. That wasn't true- it was that the po and gal wanted to dictate that therapy be given for the first scenario I described instead of supporting what the tdocs and psychiatrists recommended for difficult child- I was trying to follow THOSE recommendations. The Department of Juvenile Justice facility tried to do as much as they had resources for to follow those recommendations from the psychiatric hospital but they couldn't do everything a psychiatric Residential Treatment Center (RTC) could. So the question will be what to do now- and that will be based on whatever this new judge is convinced of- the first scenario or the second. He already asked about difficult child's mental health treatment during the arraignment and the PO told him that he hadn't ordered any because difficult child didn't come out with recommendations in that area, the BiPolar (BP) diagnosis had been removed and difficult child was taken off medications- by Department of Juvenile Justice NOT me. So this already opens the door for the prosecuting attny to revisit the "well then the problem must be the mother" issue. Never mind that just because difficult child is apparently not BiPolar (BP) doesn't automatically mean that he doesn't have issues. But him having issues doesn't mean that a therapist can do anything about them because we have tried that for over 4 years. PO knows that I'm trying to get difficult child to open up more about his issues so a therapist might be able to help him and I've asked PO to discuss this with difficult child, too. But if they turn this back into the blame the parent game we are going to have an issue. Again. It wouoldn't surprise me if they order us to the public mental health dept to completely start over with evaluations- ditching eeverything from the previous evaluations which were more thorough than our local dept would ever give and we get stuck getting treatment based on whatever the courts people say the problem is. Fortunately, I don't think this PO sees me as having mental problems that are causing difficult child to make bad choices but PO has already told the judge that he doesn't know about that side of things because he was not involved in this situation when difficult child was receiving mental health treatment before. The issue regarding my mental health treatment and/or if difficult child should be living at home with me- well, then that is where I have no choice but to tell them all the family stuff from years ago so they know that I did go to therapy before, this is the problem I dealt with, it got resolved, and difficult child should NEVER be sent to live with another family member, which is the only choice dss has if difficult child is removed from home and not in Department of Juvenile Justice. Sorry this became so long and rambling... [/QUOTE]
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