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Janet, I do not think difficult child's place is much better.  When he called me shortly after the last time he was in difficult child reffered to ISO as "the Hole".  I didn't ask him what it was like.  I will the next time I speak with him.  Regardles of the conditions it doesn't seem to be enough to keep him from acting out.  A true testament to the fact that he is in need of MH services -RM