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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 319611" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Here, a chins for services is applied for thru court services unit "intake"- you might try calling them, although they might call it something different in your state.</p><p></p><p>Now, as far as Residential Treatment Center (RTC)- in Department of Juvenile Justice "residential treatment facility" means incarceration. My son is in Department of Juvenile Justice and his facility is called "residential treatment" because he is not living in the community. Obviously, it isn't what I had in mind when a psychiatric Residential Treatment Center (RTC) was recommended but it didn't matter- that was kind of my point. If the child is involved with the courts for criminal activity and needs residential placement, they don't get a mental health facility- they get incarcerated. Yes, they have a therapist and a contracted psychiatrist who comes by periodically and a school, but it's a correctional facility. No other agency- mental health, dss, etc, would do anything to help get difficult child in a psychiatric Residential Treatment Center (RTC) after the courts are involved because the funding would come out of their budget and this way they can put it back on Department of Juvenile Justice's funding budget. Department of Juvenile Justice's funding only covers behavioral-oriented mental health treatment.</p><p></p><p>When they tell you that Department of Juvenile Justice will "determine appropriate palcement and review mental health requirements", they are not thinking what we are thinking. They review if the child is mentally retarded, criminally insane, a sex offender needing specialized treatment, a drug addict, etc, and place them accordingly. It is still incarceration in a correctional facility.</p><p></p><p><u>Sometimes</u> if the child is involved with the courts only due to being in need of services (chins), then they get get mental health treatment without incarceration- ie, a real Residential Treatment Center (RTC), not incarceration. I strongly urge you to pursue this before taking any further steps because these steps now will determine the road ahead, possibly for a very long time. I can't even get a mental health case manager for my son- it's considered his provbation or parole officer- who knows NOTHING about mental health.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 319611, member: 3699"] Here, a chins for services is applied for thru court services unit "intake"- you might try calling them, although they might call it something different in your state. Now, as far as Residential Treatment Center (RTC)- in Department of Juvenile Justice "residential treatment facility" means incarceration. My son is in Department of Juvenile Justice and his facility is called "residential treatment" because he is not living in the community. Obviously, it isn't what I had in mind when a psychiatric Residential Treatment Center (RTC) was recommended but it didn't matter- that was kind of my point. If the child is involved with the courts for criminal activity and needs residential placement, they don't get a mental health facility- they get incarcerated. Yes, they have a therapist and a contracted psychiatrist who comes by periodically and a school, but it's a correctional facility. No other agency- mental health, dss, etc, would do anything to help get difficult child in a psychiatric Residential Treatment Center (RTC) after the courts are involved because the funding would come out of their budget and this way they can put it back on Department of Juvenile Justice's funding budget. Department of Juvenile Justice's funding only covers behavioral-oriented mental health treatment. When they tell you that Department of Juvenile Justice will "determine appropriate palcement and review mental health requirements", they are not thinking what we are thinking. They review if the child is mentally retarded, criminally insane, a sex offender needing specialized treatment, a drug addict, etc, and place them accordingly. It is still incarceration in a correctional facility. [U]Sometimes[/U] if the child is involved with the courts only due to being in need of services (chins), then they get get mental health treatment without incarceration- ie, a real Residential Treatment Center (RTC), not incarceration. I strongly urge you to pursue this before taking any further steps because these steps now will determine the road ahead, possibly for a very long time. I can't even get a mental health case manager for my son- it's considered his provbation or parole officer- who knows NOTHING about mental health. [/QUOTE]
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