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<blockquote data-quote="InsaneCdn" data-source="post: 509910" data-attributes="member: 11791"><p>Aspen... I'm going to add to THIS thread, rather than to the substance abuse forum thread, because... there is likely more going on than "just" the drug abuse... I'm no expert on drug abuse, I'll leave that to the other capable warrior moms over on SA. </p><p></p><p>But... about that ODD diagnosis?</p><p>To me, its a red flag.</p><p>Most of the time, it means there is <em>something else that the doctors have not found yet</em>.</p><p>ODD is a strange diagnosis. It describes behavior - and many of our kids have had that label at one time or another - but the diagnosis stops there. No medications, no therapies, no interventions or accommodations or guidance... it's just a label. Works not too badly as a "place-holder" diagnosis, because the real diagnosis may not be immediately obvious. But... usually, there is something else.</p><p></p><p>My understanding is that there are three common timeframes for "hidden" issues to show up... starting school, about grade 4 or 5, and starting high school (8/9). At each of these points, the demands on the child ramp up fairly quickly. If they can't quite handle the new level, things can fall apart fairly quickly. </p><p></p><p>You are NOT going to be able to deal with these other problems now, until you (and she) find a way to get help for the drug problem. It messes up everything else. But once she starts dealing with that problem, in my opinion you need to be ready to get to the bottom of other problems... </p><p></p><p>Has she ever had a comprehensive evaluation? like neuropsychologist, or doctoral psychologist, or evaluation team?</p><p>How about Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) or Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluations?</p><p></p><p>Things that can really mess up a kid, and not show up until later, include sensory issues, motor and neuromotor skills issues, auditory processing disorders, mild forms of things on or toward the autism/Aspergers spectrum...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsaneCdn, post: 509910, member: 11791"] Aspen... I'm going to add to THIS thread, rather than to the substance abuse forum thread, because... there is likely more going on than "just" the drug abuse... I'm no expert on drug abuse, I'll leave that to the other capable warrior moms over on SA. But... about that ODD diagnosis? To me, its a red flag. Most of the time, it means there is [I]something else that the doctors have not found yet[/I]. ODD is a strange diagnosis. It describes behavior - and many of our kids have had that label at one time or another - but the diagnosis stops there. No medications, no therapies, no interventions or accommodations or guidance... it's just a label. Works not too badly as a "place-holder" diagnosis, because the real diagnosis may not be immediately obvious. But... usually, there is something else. My understanding is that there are three common timeframes for "hidden" issues to show up... starting school, about grade 4 or 5, and starting high school (8/9). At each of these points, the demands on the child ramp up fairly quickly. If they can't quite handle the new level, things can fall apart fairly quickly. You are NOT going to be able to deal with these other problems now, until you (and she) find a way to get help for the drug problem. It messes up everything else. But once she starts dealing with that problem, in my opinion you need to be ready to get to the bottom of other problems... Has she ever had a comprehensive evaluation? like neuropsychologist, or doctoral psychologist, or evaluation team? How about Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) or Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluations? Things that can really mess up a kid, and not show up until later, include sensory issues, motor and neuromotor skills issues, auditory processing disorders, mild forms of things on or toward the autism/Aspergers spectrum... [/QUOTE]
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