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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 662996" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Oh, Belle, Copa is right. Your news made me cry. I have an insatiable love of all animals, but especially our dog babies. They are members of my family. And we adopted a boy who killed two of our dogs. We thought it was neighbors who did it the first time. I was too griefstricken to think clearly. The second time, he killed a new puppy we had and this always puts me in tears. He did it on purpose and made my younger kids watch. Animal abuse is closely tied to sociopathic/psychopathic personality disorder. I would never ever ever ever ever give a beloved pet to your daughter to care for. You can't. We take our doggies almost everywhere with us now. We are so protective of these two since we lost two to this very twisted child who was forced to leave our home after we found out we he also molesting our younger kids. We said "OUT!" There are some things where we don't believe in second chances and some kids too sick to fix. I never wanted to see him again.</p><p></p><p>I d o not know if I'd have the heart or forgiveness at this time to talk to my child, if this were me. Knowing how important your precious dog was to you...he let this happen then mocked you for caring so much. I would be in no mood to see this child or talk to him...you will not find out the truth anyway and the "why" doesn't matter as there is no good answer. YOU need to heal. HE needs to start seriously looking at who he is...or this is who he will stay.</p><p></p><p>It will help you if your child will give you the body so you can have her cremeated and keep her with you. Maybe grow a tree in her honor. She is watching over you. She knows you love her.</p><p></p><p>You can also go to a grief group for pets. I would have to go.</p><p></p><p>I don't know where you are with your daughter now, Belle, but for me that could be a dealbreaker. You don't know how your baby died...if it was neglect or your daughter...did something. You will never know. Either way, she has no feelings about it. She has become dangerous and you need to keep yourself, the sanctuary of your home, your other children if any, your SO if any, and your peace of mind save and sound from this sort of ugliness.</p><p></p><p>In the meantime, if you can't get the body from your sib (which is even more cruel of him) then build a memorial for your baby and plant a tree in her honor anyways. The planting of a tree symbolizes life. When I go, I am thinking of being cremated and having a tree planted...one life to make up for a death.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't let this child back in t he house. But I'm the dog lover. This is not a crime I can overlook. My dogs are my therapy, my friends when I don't have any, and my babies. And two were killed by a child who had no love in himat all and after hearing about what he was doing behind our back, we called CPS to take him and the adoption was dissolved.</p><p></p><p>I will think about you all day and more and hope you can find some peace out of this horror. If you have other animals make sure your daughter gets nowhere near them. Daughter, right? I forget.</p><p></p><p>Do not trust a disturbed person with your pet, even if they act like they love the pet. Our adopted son, who we no longer have in our custody, acted like he loved all of our pets. It never occurred to me that he'd kill any. A cat went missing on his watch too and we sadly thought she ran away. Now I beileve he strangled the poor thing because my youngest told us, after he was long gone, that she caught him strangling a neighbors cat and when she saw him, she screamed and he let the cat go and it ran away.</p><p></p><p>Our cat would not have just disappeared.</p><p></p><p>Go to therapy for this. It is a major loss. Yes, non-pet lovers will not understand.</p><p></p><p>Belle, keep us posted. We are here. I'm off on Mondays.</p><p></p><p>I want to pass along what CPS shared with us and I have read since that verifies this: There are three danger/red flags that indicate possible impending antisocial personality disorder (psychopathy) in people. These are the three: 1/playing or fascination with fire, 2/ inappropriate pooping and peeing habits or 3/ cruelty to animals.</p><p></p><p>Most serial killers have done all three of these markers.</p><p></p><p>Watch yourself. And pray for your doggie in the way of your beliefs. She is in a better place now, at least according to my beliefs, and will wait for you, and you will meet again. Idon't know if it gives YOU comfort, but perhsps my strong belief that this will happen may help you.</p><p></p><p>Hugs and tears and lots of empathy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 662996, member: 1550"] Oh, Belle, Copa is right. Your news made me cry. I have an insatiable love of all animals, but especially our dog babies. They are members of my family. And we adopted a boy who killed two of our dogs. We thought it was neighbors who did it the first time. I was too griefstricken to think clearly. The second time, he killed a new puppy we had and this always puts me in tears. He did it on purpose and made my younger kids watch. Animal abuse is closely tied to sociopathic/psychopathic personality disorder. I would never ever ever ever ever give a beloved pet to your daughter to care for. You can't. We take our doggies almost everywhere with us now. We are so protective of these two since we lost two to this very twisted child who was forced to leave our home after we found out we he also molesting our younger kids. We said "OUT!" There are some things where we don't believe in second chances and some kids too sick to fix. I never wanted to see him again. I d o not know if I'd have the heart or forgiveness at this time to talk to my child, if this were me. Knowing how important your precious dog was to you...he let this happen then mocked you for caring so much. I would be in no mood to see this child or talk to him...you will not find out the truth anyway and the "why" doesn't matter as there is no good answer. YOU need to heal. HE needs to start seriously looking at who he is...or this is who he will stay. It will help you if your child will give you the body so you can have her cremeated and keep her with you. Maybe grow a tree in her honor. She is watching over you. She knows you love her. You can also go to a grief group for pets. I would have to go. I don't know where you are with your daughter now, Belle, but for me that could be a dealbreaker. You don't know how your baby died...if it was neglect or your daughter...did something. You will never know. Either way, she has no feelings about it. She has become dangerous and you need to keep yourself, the sanctuary of your home, your other children if any, your SO if any, and your peace of mind save and sound from this sort of ugliness. In the meantime, if you can't get the body from your sib (which is even more cruel of him) then build a memorial for your baby and plant a tree in her honor anyways. The planting of a tree symbolizes life. When I go, I am thinking of being cremated and having a tree planted...one life to make up for a death. I wouldn't let this child back in t he house. But I'm the dog lover. This is not a crime I can overlook. My dogs are my therapy, my friends when I don't have any, and my babies. And two were killed by a child who had no love in himat all and after hearing about what he was doing behind our back, we called CPS to take him and the adoption was dissolved. I will think about you all day and more and hope you can find some peace out of this horror. If you have other animals make sure your daughter gets nowhere near them. Daughter, right? I forget. Do not trust a disturbed person with your pet, even if they act like they love the pet. Our adopted son, who we no longer have in our custody, acted like he loved all of our pets. It never occurred to me that he'd kill any. A cat went missing on his watch too and we sadly thought she ran away. Now I beileve he strangled the poor thing because my youngest told us, after he was long gone, that she caught him strangling a neighbors cat and when she saw him, she screamed and he let the cat go and it ran away. Our cat would not have just disappeared. Go to therapy for this. It is a major loss. Yes, non-pet lovers will not understand. Belle, keep us posted. We are here. I'm off on Mondays. I want to pass along what CPS shared with us and I have read since that verifies this: There are three danger/red flags that indicate possible impending antisocial personality disorder (psychopathy) in people. These are the three: 1/playing or fascination with fire, 2/ inappropriate pooping and peeing habits or 3/ cruelty to animals. Most serial killers have done all three of these markers. Watch yourself. And pray for your doggie in the way of your beliefs. She is in a better place now, at least according to my beliefs, and will wait for you, and you will meet again. Idon't know if it gives YOU comfort, but perhsps my strong belief that this will happen may help you. Hugs and tears and lots of empathy. [/QUOTE]
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