sometimes in the last couple months I had said something about some parents having to give up custody of their children so the kids could get help- I had said I found that truly sad and awful. SOme here posted back to me that I was wrong and that that did not ever happen. Well, now it is happening to someone here.........someone posted on the general forum. "worse. Now, I'm having to giv emy son up as a ward of the state in order to get help. " I find that to be so sad. I feel very bad for that parent. (and child)- the whole family.