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<blockquote data-quote="200Meters" data-source="post: 755211" data-attributes="member: 23727"><p>Well, my wife and I drove to see Youngest on Friday at the prison he is currently in. On Thursday, my wife called a very good friend, who knows what is going on, and asked if we could come for for the Friday night Sabbath dinner because we were depressed after the sentencing and didn't want to be on our own. She immediately invited us over, so we had only 1 Sabbath meal, Saturday lunch, to cook for on Friday. We weren't intending to go given that he initially wanted only me to come but he called Friday morning and said that he wanted to see us, as in the two of us. So off we went.</p><p></p><p>We got there well ahead of 11:00, when Youngest said he had arranged the visit but we still waited a good while. We left most of stuff in the car. The car key we left in one of the coin-operated lockers at the visitors entrance. We went into the prison with absolutely nothing in our pockets except our ID cards and the locker key. We bought Youngest a phone card and two cartons of cigarettes (for him and for use as currency "inside") at the prison.</p><p></p><p>Most of the guards there were brusque-to-surly in their attitude to the prisoners' families. I suppose I can't blame them.After all, we're the families of criminals and everybody knows that apples don't fall far from the tree, so... The guard who went through the clothes we had brought for Youngest (socks, underwear & sweatshirts) was actually very nice. (The clothes will be washed & given to Youngest when they are dry. This is in case the clothes were soaked in liquids containing drugs and then dried.) The visiting families were an interesting social mix: Religious Jews, secular Jews, Israeli Arabs (Palestinians from the "West Bank" are held in separate facilities), etc.</p><p></p><p>When we were finally admitted (following pat-downs), we walked a circuitous route through this very large prison complex (which is actually composed of three separate prisons) until we got to the visiting room. Once again, we talked to Youngest on closed-circuit phones, through reinforced glass. That is always hard. He and my wife had a very heartfelt conversation and have reconciled. He is still temporarily being held with detainees on remand (people who are awaiting or undergoing trial). Most likely today (Monday), he will meet with a committee that will formally acknowledge him as a prisoner who has been sentenced. He will most likely be moved to another facility where he will be held with other sentenced prisoners, and not with detainees on remand. Youngest tells us that sentenced prisoners have better conditions.</p><p></p><p>How long will he be in for? He told us yesterday that he could be in until anywhere from mid April to mid-October depending on his behavior and whether or not the Prison Service decides to release prisoners in order to ease overcrowding. The lawyer WhatsApped us last night and informed us that he will be appealing the sentence to the District Court, which is the next court up the food chain from the Magistrates Court. We have no problem with the sentence but the lawyer does not work for us.</p><p></p><p>We then drove pack to our Jerusalem suburb, getting in about an hour and 15 minutes before the onset of the Sabbath. It is amazing how much you can get done in an hour and fifteen minutes. We made mulligatawny soup, chicken stir-fry, brown rice, a mixed salad and wholewheat cornflakes muffins. I baked 4 smallish loaves of wholewheat <em>challa</em> (bread) two weeks ago, so I didn't have to bake <em>challa</em>. Everything went into the fridge, some of it to be put on the Sabbath hotplate Saturday morning.</p><p></p><p>Youngest just phoned me. He met this morning with the social worker; the committee will be tomorrow or Wednesday. The social worker said he will most likely be moved to a prison the remand wing of which he has been in before (see my very first post on this thread, that one, not far from the airport, much closer to where we live).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Our love for Youngest, and for each other, along with our faith in G-d, are what are getting us through this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My wife & I think that Youngest would have done so well in the IDF. If only he would put his mind to it, he could have done very well, maybe even have been in an elite unit. His not having been in the army and his criminal record will be a millstone around his neck. Energy and talent he has, he must just decide to channel them in a positive direction.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTdnGcd_yls" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTdnGcd_yls</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/youreright.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":youreright:" title="youreright :youreright:" data-shortname=":youreright:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's scary and very frustrating how little control we now have over their lives, as opposed to when we could hold them in one hand. Dealing with this is where our faith in G-d comes in.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>blushblushblush</strong></span></em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I just spoke to Mrs. 200Meters. Youngest called her too. It's always interesting to compare and contrast what he tells her & what he tells me. Apparently, he told her that he told the social worker that he is not interested in any rehab activities, that he just wants to do his time and be released. That is not good but hopefully it is just tough-guy bluster. Let's see where he is moved and if we can contact the social worker there. The rabbi of the synagogue Youngest broke into and stole from has said that he would like to meet with Youngest. Who knows? We shall see.</p><p></p><p>I thank everyone for their sage advice and words of comfort and support. This board rocks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="200Meters, post: 755211, member: 23727"] Well, my wife and I drove to see Youngest on Friday at the prison he is currently in. On Thursday, my wife called a very good friend, who knows what is going on, and asked if we could come for for the Friday night Sabbath dinner because we were depressed after the sentencing and didn't want to be on our own. She immediately invited us over, so we had only 1 Sabbath meal, Saturday lunch, to cook for on Friday. We weren't intending to go given that he initially wanted only me to come but he called Friday morning and said that he wanted to see us, as in the two of us. So off we went. We got there well ahead of 11:00, when Youngest said he had arranged the visit but we still waited a good while. We left most of stuff in the car. The car key we left in one of the coin-operated lockers at the visitors entrance. We went into the prison with absolutely nothing in our pockets except our ID cards and the locker key. We bought Youngest a phone card and two cartons of cigarettes (for him and for use as currency "inside") at the prison. Most of the guards there were brusque-to-surly in their attitude to the prisoners' families. I suppose I can't blame them.After all, we're the families of criminals and everybody knows that apples don't fall far from the tree, so... The guard who went through the clothes we had brought for Youngest (socks, underwear & sweatshirts) was actually very nice. (The clothes will be washed & given to Youngest when they are dry. This is in case the clothes were soaked in liquids containing drugs and then dried.) The visiting families were an interesting social mix: Religious Jews, secular Jews, Israeli Arabs (Palestinians from the "West Bank" are held in separate facilities), etc. When we were finally admitted (following pat-downs), we walked a circuitous route through this very large prison complex (which is actually composed of three separate prisons) until we got to the visiting room. Once again, we talked to Youngest on closed-circuit phones, through reinforced glass. That is always hard. He and my wife had a very heartfelt conversation and have reconciled. He is still temporarily being held with detainees on remand (people who are awaiting or undergoing trial). Most likely today (Monday), he will meet with a committee that will formally acknowledge him as a prisoner who has been sentenced. He will most likely be moved to another facility where he will be held with other sentenced prisoners, and not with detainees on remand. Youngest tells us that sentenced prisoners have better conditions. How long will he be in for? He told us yesterday that he could be in until anywhere from mid April to mid-October depending on his behavior and whether or not the Prison Service decides to release prisoners in order to ease overcrowding. The lawyer WhatsApped us last night and informed us that he will be appealing the sentence to the District Court, which is the next court up the food chain from the Magistrates Court. We have no problem with the sentence but the lawyer does not work for us. We then drove pack to our Jerusalem suburb, getting in about an hour and 15 minutes before the onset of the Sabbath. It is amazing how much you can get done in an hour and fifteen minutes. We made mulligatawny soup, chicken stir-fry, brown rice, a mixed salad and wholewheat cornflakes muffins. I baked 4 smallish loaves of wholewheat [I]challa[/I] (bread) two weeks ago, so I didn't have to bake [I]challa[/I]. Everything went into the fridge, some of it to be put on the Sabbath hotplate Saturday morning. Youngest just phoned me. He met this morning with the social worker; the committee will be tomorrow or Wednesday. The social worker said he will most likely be moved to a prison the remand wing of which he has been in before (see my very first post on this thread, that one, not far from the airport, much closer to where we live). Our love for Youngest, and for each other, along with our faith in G-d, are what are getting us through this. My wife & I think that Youngest would have done so well in the IDF. If only he would put his mind to it, he could have done very well, maybe even have been in an elite unit. His not having been in the army and his criminal record will be a millstone around his neck. Energy and talent he has, he must just decide to channel them in a positive direction. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTdnGcd_yls[/URL] :youreright: It's scary and very frustrating how little control we now have over their lives, as opposed to when we could hold them in one hand. Dealing with this is where our faith in G-d comes in. [I][COLOR=#ff0000][B]blushblushblush[/B][/COLOR][/I] I just spoke to Mrs. 200Meters. Youngest called her too. It's always interesting to compare and contrast what he tells her & what he tells me. Apparently, he told her that he told the social worker that he is not interested in any rehab activities, that he just wants to do his time and be released. That is not good but hopefully it is just tough-guy bluster. Let's see where he is moved and if we can contact the social worker there. The rabbi of the synagogue Youngest broke into and stole from has said that he would like to meet with Youngest. Who knows? We shall see. I thank everyone for their sage advice and words of comfort and support. This board rocks. [/QUOTE]
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