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<blockquote data-quote="Debbie MA" data-source="post: 109529" data-attributes="member: 1581"><p>Kathy, can you provide references for the studies you mention? It would be interesting to read them although my opinion probably wont be swayed. What is the saying about lies, d***n lies and statistics? It is always interesting to me to learn the backgrounds of individual researchers because I think many of them will find whatever they are looking for and statistics are slippery things.</p><p></p><p>I think homework gives some kids an unfair advantage over other kids. Some kids have issues like the ones Skeeter lists. Some have far greater resources at home to get the work done computers and even paper and pencils arent found in all homes. Some parents are more capable of helping with homework. Some kids have parents that help with homework and some dont. Some kids need to work after school and in the evening and some dont. How does a teacher even know if the work was done by the child or copied from someone else or even done by a parent (and I have seen kids get full credit for work basically completed by parents)? Some kids just need a break and deserve credit for keeping themselves together throughout an entire school day. As much as I love my job I know that when I come home from work the last thing I want to do is more of the same and I would more than likely dig in my heels if told I needed to complete two more hours of practice work. Homework and homework battles interfere with family time, family harmony and with time spent learning things not taught in school. </p><p></p><p>I think schools are over-focused on general learning where everyone needs to learn the same things. It makes more sense to me to allow kids to find their passions, what they really care about and want to learn about. Thats where you find real learning taking place. Sure, everyone should be able to do basic math. We all need to know how much change we should get back at the store and we all need to pay bills. We all need to be able to put a sentence together. Beyond that, why learn things like high level math if we have absolutely no interest? We are not all meant to be mathematicians, scientists or computer programmers or even to attend college.</p><p></p><p>I have taken my experiences raising my older kids and combined that with what I have read and learned while raising a severely bipolar kid (who hasnt had a BiPolar (BP) episode in two years or a rage in 3 plus years!) and I think that my youngest has benefited although it hasnt been too late for the others. What is important above all in our house is the love and respect we feel for each other. In the end it is our relationships that matter most. My children never leave the house without a call of love you to me wherever I am in the house. They smile a lot and we have great conversations. Ross Greene has been a wonderful teacher as has Alfie Kohn and others. Alfie Kohn has made me ask myself what it is I want for my children and if the way I relate to them helps me to achieve those goals. My goals for my children are that they have healthy and fulfilling relationships and that as adults they find work that sustains them and that they are passionate about. I want them to treat others with dignity and to expect to be treated with dignity in return. I want them to be excited about learning, especially the things that *they* want to learn. Daily homework battles do nothing to further my goals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Debbie MA, post: 109529, member: 1581"] Kathy, can you provide references for the studies you mention? It would be interesting to read them although my opinion probably wont be swayed. What is the saying about lies, d***n lies and statistics? It is always interesting to me to learn the backgrounds of individual researchers because I think many of them will find whatever they are looking for and statistics are slippery things. I think homework gives some kids an unfair advantage over other kids. Some kids have issues like the ones Skeeter lists. Some have far greater resources at home to get the work done computers and even paper and pencils arent found in all homes. Some parents are more capable of helping with homework. Some kids have parents that help with homework and some dont. Some kids need to work after school and in the evening and some dont. How does a teacher even know if the work was done by the child or copied from someone else or even done by a parent (and I have seen kids get full credit for work basically completed by parents)? Some kids just need a break and deserve credit for keeping themselves together throughout an entire school day. As much as I love my job I know that when I come home from work the last thing I want to do is more of the same and I would more than likely dig in my heels if told I needed to complete two more hours of practice work. Homework and homework battles interfere with family time, family harmony and with time spent learning things not taught in school. I think schools are over-focused on general learning where everyone needs to learn the same things. It makes more sense to me to allow kids to find their passions, what they really care about and want to learn about. Thats where you find real learning taking place. Sure, everyone should be able to do basic math. We all need to know how much change we should get back at the store and we all need to pay bills. We all need to be able to put a sentence together. Beyond that, why learn things like high level math if we have absolutely no interest? We are not all meant to be mathematicians, scientists or computer programmers or even to attend college. I have taken my experiences raising my older kids and combined that with what I have read and learned while raising a severely bipolar kid (who hasnt had a BiPolar (BP) episode in two years or a rage in 3 plus years!) and I think that my youngest has benefited although it hasnt been too late for the others. What is important above all in our house is the love and respect we feel for each other. In the end it is our relationships that matter most. My children never leave the house without a call of love you to me wherever I am in the house. They smile a lot and we have great conversations. Ross Greene has been a wonderful teacher as has Alfie Kohn and others. Alfie Kohn has made me ask myself what it is I want for my children and if the way I relate to them helps me to achieve those goals. My goals for my children are that they have healthy and fulfilling relationships and that as adults they find work that sustains them and that they are passionate about. I want them to treat others with dignity and to expect to be treated with dignity in return. I want them to be excited about learning, especially the things that *they* want to learn. Daily homework battles do nothing to further my goals. [/QUOTE]
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