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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 291288" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I wish I could tell you how to make it stop. We went through a fair amount of that with Wiz. In 2nd grade he told the teacher and the principal that I made him stand outside in just his underwear all night long the night before. It was Feb and had snowed 5 inches the night before. The idiot teacher (who had already been stung by some of his lies already) bought it hook line and sinker. I was the room mother and I also spent 2 mornings a week in the classroom helping out! He was totally consistent when he repeated this to the principal. She had enough common sense to check him for signs of frostbite and exposure. Of course there were no signs. </p><p></p><p>Wiz learned not to lie that way the hard way. He kept telling me things like the teacher takes away recess if he doesn't catch all the spelling errors she makes on notes to parents. Or that he had to pay with his "caught being good" tickets AND sign the "Bad Behavior Book" if he wanted to go to the restroom before lunch - which was at 12:30 (school started at 7:55). I didn't believe him because he told so many lies. But it was all true. And he was on medications that made him have to urinate frequently. Teacher did NOT like it when I gave her a copy of the state statute that banned pay toilets. The superintendent was upset also because the bad behavior book was something any kid could look through. It didn't even have a separate page each day, every offense was written down on a line in a notebook and anyone who needed to sign it could read what everyone else got in trouble for. </p><p></p><p>When Wiz learned that if he told the truth I would take action to help him, but with lies like this I was not inclined to step in because I had no idea what was true.</p><p></p><p>Wiz knew these were lies. At no time did he actually believe that I made him stand outside all night. He also knew that we did not have him exorcised to get demons out of him. But he told quite a few people that we did. </p><p></p><p>Does she know that these are lies? Are they things that she hallucinates or dreams and then thinks are real? If she keeps telling these things then you may have to let her go through the natural consequences of pretending your parents abuse you. If you and the therapists can work together to make her think she is going into a foster home because you are abusive, and make it a bare bones, no frills "foster home" - say one with-o tv, computers, games, etc.... ? Maybe she will see that it isn't such a great idea. That may be too drastic, and may not be appropriate. It is just all I can think of.</p><p></p><p>These seem so outrageous. What does the psychiatrist suggest? Can psychiatrist and therapist send letters to CPS stating that she has a history of elaborate lies, especially about being abused? That might help cut off some of these investigations before they even get started. Maybe have copies of the letters sent to the principal and all of her teachers?</p><p></p><p>Would it be wise to install cameras throughout the home so that any allegations of child abuse can be refuted? Esp as she gets older - she may accuse husband of sexual abuse. Once that allegation has been made there is NO turning back. It could ruin his life. He could lose his job, his reputation, and everything else that matters. CPS could even threaten to take your other children away unless you make him move out of your home. And all it would take to destroy the entire life you and husband have built is for her to make ONE allegation. No proof needed. It is guilty even after proven innocent for cases of sexual abuse of a child.</p><p></p><p>Make sure he doesn't go into her room unless you are there also. He needs to be aware that this could happen. All of this should apply to your son also. As a fireman his job would be gone. I would not ever have him be at your home if there isn't another adult there. NOT because he is untrustworthy, because she lies like it is going out of style. At the very least you should make him aware of the situation and the possible danger to him. </p><p></p><p>How are you doing? Haven't seen you around lately. What else is going on? How are the kids and the pets?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 291288, member: 1233"] I wish I could tell you how to make it stop. We went through a fair amount of that with Wiz. In 2nd grade he told the teacher and the principal that I made him stand outside in just his underwear all night long the night before. It was Feb and had snowed 5 inches the night before. The idiot teacher (who had already been stung by some of his lies already) bought it hook line and sinker. I was the room mother and I also spent 2 mornings a week in the classroom helping out! He was totally consistent when he repeated this to the principal. She had enough common sense to check him for signs of frostbite and exposure. Of course there were no signs. Wiz learned not to lie that way the hard way. He kept telling me things like the teacher takes away recess if he doesn't catch all the spelling errors she makes on notes to parents. Or that he had to pay with his "caught being good" tickets AND sign the "Bad Behavior Book" if he wanted to go to the restroom before lunch - which was at 12:30 (school started at 7:55). I didn't believe him because he told so many lies. But it was all true. And he was on medications that made him have to urinate frequently. Teacher did NOT like it when I gave her a copy of the state statute that banned pay toilets. The superintendent was upset also because the bad behavior book was something any kid could look through. It didn't even have a separate page each day, every offense was written down on a line in a notebook and anyone who needed to sign it could read what everyone else got in trouble for. When Wiz learned that if he told the truth I would take action to help him, but with lies like this I was not inclined to step in because I had no idea what was true. Wiz knew these were lies. At no time did he actually believe that I made him stand outside all night. He also knew that we did not have him exorcised to get demons out of him. But he told quite a few people that we did. Does she know that these are lies? Are they things that she hallucinates or dreams and then thinks are real? If she keeps telling these things then you may have to let her go through the natural consequences of pretending your parents abuse you. If you and the therapists can work together to make her think she is going into a foster home because you are abusive, and make it a bare bones, no frills "foster home" - say one with-o tv, computers, games, etc.... ? Maybe she will see that it isn't such a great idea. That may be too drastic, and may not be appropriate. It is just all I can think of. These seem so outrageous. What does the psychiatrist suggest? Can psychiatrist and therapist send letters to CPS stating that she has a history of elaborate lies, especially about being abused? That might help cut off some of these investigations before they even get started. Maybe have copies of the letters sent to the principal and all of her teachers? Would it be wise to install cameras throughout the home so that any allegations of child abuse can be refuted? Esp as she gets older - she may accuse husband of sexual abuse. Once that allegation has been made there is NO turning back. It could ruin his life. He could lose his job, his reputation, and everything else that matters. CPS could even threaten to take your other children away unless you make him move out of your home. And all it would take to destroy the entire life you and husband have built is for her to make ONE allegation. No proof needed. It is guilty even after proven innocent for cases of sexual abuse of a child. Make sure he doesn't go into her room unless you are there also. He needs to be aware that this could happen. All of this should apply to your son also. As a fireman his job would be gone. I would not ever have him be at your home if there isn't another adult there. NOT because he is untrustworthy, because she lies like it is going out of style. At the very least you should make him aware of the situation and the possible danger to him. How are you doing? Haven't seen you around lately. What else is going on? How are the kids and the pets? [/QUOTE]
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