Thanks for the tidbits, guys. Lucas is high functioning. And he's such a rule follower, he'll never speed or break the law. I'm leaning toward next year for him as insurance is just darn expensive for boys and the year after this one he can work and help pay. But I want to take him in parking lots and see how he does. Or, rather, I want HUB to go in parking lots with him...hey, I'm no hero 