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<blockquote data-quote="helpangel" data-source="post: 629931" data-attributes="member: 7170"><p>Hi Shiela I'm sorry you needed us again, it happens that way. Heroin is one of the hardest habits to quit, and it gets really ugly when they are detoxing. Relapse happens more often then any of us want to think about.</p><p></p><p>It's very unlikely that anyone here will ridicule you, we've all made mistakes and none of us are perfect. We do share our experience and what we have learned, and I have to admit sometimes what we hear is uncomfortable... it isn't meant with any form of malice intention.</p><p></p><p>That in mind I have to mention that even though alcohol is mild in comparison to heroin, a person trying to kick heroin has to be in a totally clean environment to do so... they can't be trying to get "clean" while in contact around anyone using anything to alter their state of mind. When they are they end up trading one addiction for a different one, then they can't get high enough on whatever they start using, begin using stronger things and eventually end up back at square one again. </p><p></p><p>It's great that he is going back to detox, I honestly hope he is successful and that when he comes out there is a clean house or halfway house available for him. Chance of relapse at your house, the shelter or on the streets will most likely happen. I'm sorry to not have happy prediction just stating what I've observed over the years.</p><p></p><p>As far as the Obama care for you, from the website my son was going thru the same thing $800 a month with a $2000 deductible... it took a couple days and about 6 hours on the phone during that time but they managed to come up with $18/mo., no deductible and $10 office calls. It's like trying to nail jello to a tree but they can eventually come up with something affordable. You need to persist and talk to a live human usually to get any of those great "deals" is what I am saying.</p><p></p><p>Sending hugs and hopes that this all works out for you and your son.</p><p>Nancy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="helpangel, post: 629931, member: 7170"] Hi Shiela I'm sorry you needed us again, it happens that way. Heroin is one of the hardest habits to quit, and it gets really ugly when they are detoxing. Relapse happens more often then any of us want to think about. It's very unlikely that anyone here will ridicule you, we've all made mistakes and none of us are perfect. We do share our experience and what we have learned, and I have to admit sometimes what we hear is uncomfortable... it isn't meant with any form of malice intention. That in mind I have to mention that even though alcohol is mild in comparison to heroin, a person trying to kick heroin has to be in a totally clean environment to do so... they can't be trying to get "clean" while in contact around anyone using anything to alter their state of mind. When they are they end up trading one addiction for a different one, then they can't get high enough on whatever they start using, begin using stronger things and eventually end up back at square one again. It's great that he is going back to detox, I honestly hope he is successful and that when he comes out there is a clean house or halfway house available for him. Chance of relapse at your house, the shelter or on the streets will most likely happen. I'm sorry to not have happy prediction just stating what I've observed over the years. As far as the Obama care for you, from the website my son was going thru the same thing $800 a month with a $2000 deductible... it took a couple days and about 6 hours on the phone during that time but they managed to come up with $18/mo., no deductible and $10 office calls. It's like trying to nail jello to a tree but they can eventually come up with something affordable. You need to persist and talk to a live human usually to get any of those great "deals" is what I am saying. Sending hugs and hopes that this all works out for you and your son. Nancy [/QUOTE]
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