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<blockquote data-quote="Fran" data-source="post: 326372" data-attributes="member: 3"><p>If you think for a minute our elected officials are not dishonest, I would be surprised. We have it set up in such a way that they have to be TV pretty, with full head of hair,perfect teeth, go to church, have a perfect family to be elected. No body is that 2 dimensional. There is always stuff. It's an unrealistic standard. It wasn't too long ago that you couldn't be divorced. Even now, it's not something that will get you points in an election. You couldn't have a kid who was a difficult child. You or your spouse and children can't be heavy. You have to belong to a church. You have to fake a happy marriage even if it's a sham. You have to go to the right schools. Who lives such spotless, teflon lives? They gamble, maybe they drink or someone in the family and on and on. Just because they aren't caught or splashed across the papers doesn't mean they are not presenting the public with a lie of who they are. </p><p>There is no way the country could run without horse trading in the negotiations. I don't believe any country could run without the back room discussions. Someone is always going to lose even if they were promised a win. </p><p>The bottom line is how well do they do the job we elected them to do. It is their spouse and family who should deal with personal issues. I for one would like "the good wife" to state, instead of I'm standing with my spouse. It's none of your d***ed business to be in my marriage and take the whole thing private.</p><p></p><p>I agree Nomad, that a sports figure doesn't have to be a person of integrity to be good at his job. Unfortunately for TW, he was a beacon of light to a lot of young kids. So he was thrust onto a pedestal, which he happily did. Now, he fell off for a while. I hope he gets his family back on track and comes back to golf. He is an amazing athlete. </p><p></p><p>I am not expert at what businesses do or don't do but I know that as husband is in finance that expenses are scrutinized, especially publicly traded companies. It isn't the executives money but the stock holders. They also sign a code of ethics to the best of my recollection. </p><p></p><p>All I know is that if I was dealing with a personal issue, having that sort of public spotlight would never make it better and it humiliates both parties. </p><p></p><p>Now the wife here, has had to know for a long time that old TW was out spreading himself around. Since her life has been made public, she is taking legal action. (as opposed to a golf club upside the head) She is a victim of epic proportions but she is forced by the spotlight to do something she may have handled her self with a new set of clubs. : ) ( I don't condone physical violence of any sort by adults. I'm just stating how most of us feel when this angry)</p><p></p><p>I would not be so arrogant to say it couldn't happen to me. I have seen this sort of stuff happen around me. Most weren't casual one night stands from what I can tell. They were empty shells of marriages so there came affair, divorce and remarriage. The best any of us can do is try to keep our marriages healthy, just as we try to keep our bodies healthy to prevent disease. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. We are just trying to put the odds in our favor. </p><p></p><p>The discussions are here are interesting. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fran, post: 326372, member: 3"] If you think for a minute our elected officials are not dishonest, I would be surprised. We have it set up in such a way that they have to be TV pretty, with full head of hair,perfect teeth, go to church, have a perfect family to be elected. No body is that 2 dimensional. There is always stuff. It's an unrealistic standard. It wasn't too long ago that you couldn't be divorced. Even now, it's not something that will get you points in an election. You couldn't have a kid who was a difficult child. You or your spouse and children can't be heavy. You have to belong to a church. You have to fake a happy marriage even if it's a sham. You have to go to the right schools. Who lives such spotless, teflon lives? They gamble, maybe they drink or someone in the family and on and on. Just because they aren't caught or splashed across the papers doesn't mean they are not presenting the public with a lie of who they are. There is no way the country could run without horse trading in the negotiations. I don't believe any country could run without the back room discussions. Someone is always going to lose even if they were promised a win. The bottom line is how well do they do the job we elected them to do. It is their spouse and family who should deal with personal issues. I for one would like "the good wife" to state, instead of I'm standing with my spouse. It's none of your d***ed business to be in my marriage and take the whole thing private. I agree Nomad, that a sports figure doesn't have to be a person of integrity to be good at his job. Unfortunately for TW, he was a beacon of light to a lot of young kids. So he was thrust onto a pedestal, which he happily did. Now, he fell off for a while. I hope he gets his family back on track and comes back to golf. He is an amazing athlete. I am not expert at what businesses do or don't do but I know that as husband is in finance that expenses are scrutinized, especially publicly traded companies. It isn't the executives money but the stock holders. They also sign a code of ethics to the best of my recollection. All I know is that if I was dealing with a personal issue, having that sort of public spotlight would never make it better and it humiliates both parties. Now the wife here, has had to know for a long time that old TW was out spreading himself around. Since her life has been made public, she is taking legal action. (as opposed to a golf club upside the head) She is a victim of epic proportions but she is forced by the spotlight to do something she may have handled her self with a new set of clubs. : ) ( I don't condone physical violence of any sort by adults. I'm just stating how most of us feel when this angry) I would not be so arrogant to say it couldn't happen to me. I have seen this sort of stuff happen around me. Most weren't casual one night stands from what I can tell. They were empty shells of marriages so there came affair, divorce and remarriage. The best any of us can do is try to keep our marriages healthy, just as we try to keep our bodies healthy to prevent disease. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. We are just trying to put the odds in our favor. The discussions are here are interesting. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. [/QUOTE]
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