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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 355845" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>They had a visitation on Sun. but I didn't go. I had told difficult child before that he shouldn't expect me to do as much as I did this past year if he ever got incarcerated again, and I meant it. I also told him the risk he was taking about being allowed to come back home again. </p><p></p><p>If they recommit him, thay can only keep him in Department of Juvenile Justice for 3-6 mos unless he commttied a street charge whille in there because he would be going back for parole violations/status offenses only. He did have more than status offenses before- even a one or two felony charges- but this past year supposedly paid the price for them.</p><p></p><p>Department of Juvenile Justice removed difficult child's BiPolar (BP) diagnosis- if the therapist in there gave him another one, I don't know what it is because I wasn't privy to his mental health info since he's over 14yo and was not in my custody during that period. His PO would have it but the PO said difficult child did not come out with mental health treatment being a necessity according to Department of Juvenile Justice. That is why he didn't order it before.</p><p></p><p>I don't know that a therapist can do any good for difficult child until he wants to open up about things. I have had a few tell me it would not. Of course our mental health dept will never say that to the legal people. But it isn't just that- if difficult child came out and did straighten up because this detention time woke him up, he'd be stuck with whatever diagnosis. medications, therapy he was being given just because everyone would claim that's what did the trick- even if we'd only gone through 2 sessions so far. IOW- 3 weeks down the road we would know if difficult child had decided to really try or not. Well, if we haven't even nmade an appointment over there yet, how much effective therapy can happen in that amount of time on an outpatient basis? </p><p></p><p>The defense attny was saying a couple of contradictory things about difficult child's chances of being recommitted by the judge. And, it appears that they all are convinced over there that using the threat of sending difficult child to dss will make me do whatever they say. And apparently they think the big issue is my refusal to work with this mental health dept. I think they should stop and look at why- I took difficult child over there for therapy for mos a few years ago. Of course we had to wait for months to get thru the waiting list. Then he got a therapist who kept swearing he could help if we just kept going over family history- for MONTHS. Then once when difficult child was acting out of control or manic or something, the therapist just made difficult child promise he'd straighten up and sent us on our way, difficult child kept actring up so I drove straight back over there and waited until the therapist could see us again. At that point, he threw his arms up in the air and said he didn't know what to do other than tdo difficult child. So what did he do to help us? I could have taken difficult child to the psychiatric hospital myself. Then, 2 years later I actually was going to give it another try over there thinking they could take the route of getting difficult child into Residential Treatment Center (RTC). But, they couldn't set an appointment because they'd lost difficult child's record but 2 weeks later, after they found it, they saw which therapist difficult child had seen before and said that since that therapist was still there, difficult child had to still see him even if it's 2 years later and I was requesting a different one. difficult child hates that guy so bad that once he ran away and didn't come back until poile and a crisis counselor from there found him in the woods and threatened to arrest him. And that whole experience happened with a court order- I can only imagine how wonderful the experience would be if we were on a court order. Oh- they also chuck any previous evaluations done by outside parties, claiming they have to do their own. Fine- except they are less exdperienced and knowledgable than most any other mental health profs around. Let's just say that when a SW first gets out of college and needs their first job,, that's the place they typically go.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As far as Residential Treatment Center (RTC)- difficult child can never qualify for the system to send him to that now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 355845, member: 3699"] They had a visitation on Sun. but I didn't go. I had told difficult child before that he shouldn't expect me to do as much as I did this past year if he ever got incarcerated again, and I meant it. I also told him the risk he was taking about being allowed to come back home again. If they recommit him, thay can only keep him in Department of Juvenile Justice for 3-6 mos unless he commttied a street charge whille in there because he would be going back for parole violations/status offenses only. He did have more than status offenses before- even a one or two felony charges- but this past year supposedly paid the price for them. Department of Juvenile Justice removed difficult child's BiPolar (BP) diagnosis- if the therapist in there gave him another one, I don't know what it is because I wasn't privy to his mental health info since he's over 14yo and was not in my custody during that period. His PO would have it but the PO said difficult child did not come out with mental health treatment being a necessity according to Department of Juvenile Justice. That is why he didn't order it before. I don't know that a therapist can do any good for difficult child until he wants to open up about things. I have had a few tell me it would not. Of course our mental health dept will never say that to the legal people. But it isn't just that- if difficult child came out and did straighten up because this detention time woke him up, he'd be stuck with whatever diagnosis. medications, therapy he was being given just because everyone would claim that's what did the trick- even if we'd only gone through 2 sessions so far. IOW- 3 weeks down the road we would know if difficult child had decided to really try or not. Well, if we haven't even nmade an appointment over there yet, how much effective therapy can happen in that amount of time on an outpatient basis? The defense attny was saying a couple of contradictory things about difficult child's chances of being recommitted by the judge. And, it appears that they all are convinced over there that using the threat of sending difficult child to dss will make me do whatever they say. And apparently they think the big issue is my refusal to work with this mental health dept. I think they should stop and look at why- I took difficult child over there for therapy for mos a few years ago. Of course we had to wait for months to get thru the waiting list. Then he got a therapist who kept swearing he could help if we just kept going over family history- for MONTHS. Then once when difficult child was acting out of control or manic or something, the therapist just made difficult child promise he'd straighten up and sent us on our way, difficult child kept actring up so I drove straight back over there and waited until the therapist could see us again. At that point, he threw his arms up in the air and said he didn't know what to do other than tdo difficult child. So what did he do to help us? I could have taken difficult child to the psychiatric hospital myself. Then, 2 years later I actually was going to give it another try over there thinking they could take the route of getting difficult child into Residential Treatment Center (RTC). But, they couldn't set an appointment because they'd lost difficult child's record but 2 weeks later, after they found it, they saw which therapist difficult child had seen before and said that since that therapist was still there, difficult child had to still see him even if it's 2 years later and I was requesting a different one. difficult child hates that guy so bad that once he ran away and didn't come back until poile and a crisis counselor from there found him in the woods and threatened to arrest him. And that whole experience happened with a court order- I can only imagine how wonderful the experience would be if we were on a court order. Oh- they also chuck any previous evaluations done by outside parties, claiming they have to do their own. Fine- except they are less exdperienced and knowledgable than most any other mental health profs around. Let's just say that when a SW first gets out of college and needs their first job,, that's the place they typically go. As far as Residential Treatment Center (RTC)- difficult child can never qualify for the system to send him to that now. [/QUOTE]
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