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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 527423" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>You are in the USA?? Federal law mandates child find beginning at the age of ....BIRTH.... now some things are hard to identify early, like specific learning disabilities because of course, there is little to test for that before second/third grade and even later for some kids who are more borderline....but honestly, from your initial post, I dont think you are looking at simply a specific learning disability.</p><p></p><p>I agree one thing to check out (along all the things others said....Speech Language Pathologist (SLP)/auditory processing and Occupational Therapist (OT) sensory--esp given the lack of awareness of space/boundaries. ) would be high functioning autism or Aspergers. These kids can seem very typical except for a few social issues and the types of things you described. There are folks who do not understand the true range of issues in autism spectrum disorders who will say no way it is possible, but, and of course this is only from a little post so no way you can take it as a sure thing...just something to investigate......there are many kids who have been treated as either just a behavior disorder, adhd plus ODDand/or anxiety....and years and years later they finally get the appropriate diagnosis of some form of autism spectrum disorder. Kids on the spectrum often DO like to be with others, seem like leaders (but it is that they only can see it their way and want things their way, they can be pretty rigid about it sometimes), but they have skill deficits that make things difficult and the gap widens as they get older. They also do not always have eye contact problems, and many many are typical academically or even gifted. </p><p></p><p>As they get older things get tougher and they are labeled more and more with unflattering and unhelpful labels that have to do with describing their behavior (rude, disrespectful, oppositional, bossy, lazy, disorganized, spoiled, etc....) </p><p></p><p>I would for sure put in writing that you want a full educational evaluation including behavior analysis which if you start now may not be done by the end of this year but will put her at the top of the list for next year because there are time lines for completing evaluations...then while you are gearing up for that, set up the private Occupational Therapist (OT) and Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) evaluations.....along with a neuropsychologist. (another way to go is to do a developmental pediatrician or a child development clinic where they have all of these folks as a team) but in general if you only see a psychologist or psychiatrist you will just get a behavior or mood diagnosis and I for one feel like kids need a broader evaluation to start. (there are clear exceptions, yours is not one of those I suspect, like known abuse or strong family history of a specific mental healthy diagnosis, but even then we need to know strengths and weaknesses in learning and they do not do those kinds of tests).</p><p></p><p>so if you have the s/l and Occupational Therapist (OT) results to bring to a neuropsychologist who can then help see how the brain and behavior is connected (they do a broader view in my opinion, so can diagnosis mood, developmental issues, mental health issues, learning issues, etc.)....then THOSE results can be brought and school evaluations must consider outside information. They do not have to take it as it is but they must consider it when assessing your child.</p><p></p><p>I have been distracted by my phone several times writing this so I am sure it is all over the place, I hope others will be along to check in and can be more clear, sorry....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 527423, member: 12886"] You are in the USA?? Federal law mandates child find beginning at the age of ....BIRTH.... now some things are hard to identify early, like specific learning disabilities because of course, there is little to test for that before second/third grade and even later for some kids who are more borderline....but honestly, from your initial post, I dont think you are looking at simply a specific learning disability. I agree one thing to check out (along all the things others said....Speech Language Pathologist (SLP)/auditory processing and Occupational Therapist (OT) sensory--esp given the lack of awareness of space/boundaries. ) would be high functioning autism or Aspergers. These kids can seem very typical except for a few social issues and the types of things you described. There are folks who do not understand the true range of issues in autism spectrum disorders who will say no way it is possible, but, and of course this is only from a little post so no way you can take it as a sure thing...just something to investigate......there are many kids who have been treated as either just a behavior disorder, adhd plus ODDand/or anxiety....and years and years later they finally get the appropriate diagnosis of some form of autism spectrum disorder. Kids on the spectrum often DO like to be with others, seem like leaders (but it is that they only can see it their way and want things their way, they can be pretty rigid about it sometimes), but they have skill deficits that make things difficult and the gap widens as they get older. They also do not always have eye contact problems, and many many are typical academically or even gifted. As they get older things get tougher and they are labeled more and more with unflattering and unhelpful labels that have to do with describing their behavior (rude, disrespectful, oppositional, bossy, lazy, disorganized, spoiled, etc....) I would for sure put in writing that you want a full educational evaluation including behavior analysis which if you start now may not be done by the end of this year but will put her at the top of the list for next year because there are time lines for completing evaluations...then while you are gearing up for that, set up the private Occupational Therapist (OT) and Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) evaluations.....along with a neuropsychologist. (another way to go is to do a developmental pediatrician or a child development clinic where they have all of these folks as a team) but in general if you only see a psychologist or psychiatrist you will just get a behavior or mood diagnosis and I for one feel like kids need a broader evaluation to start. (there are clear exceptions, yours is not one of those I suspect, like known abuse or strong family history of a specific mental healthy diagnosis, but even then we need to know strengths and weaknesses in learning and they do not do those kinds of tests). so if you have the s/l and Occupational Therapist (OT) results to bring to a neuropsychologist who can then help see how the brain and behavior is connected (they do a broader view in my opinion, so can diagnosis mood, developmental issues, mental health issues, learning issues, etc.)....then THOSE results can be brought and school evaluations must consider outside information. They do not have to take it as it is but they must consider it when assessing your child. I have been distracted by my phone several times writing this so I am sure it is all over the place, I hope others will be along to check in and can be more clear, sorry.... [/QUOTE]
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