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<blockquote data-quote="Star*" data-source="post: 311364" data-attributes="member: 4964"><p>Daisy - </p><p></p><p>You know I love you very much. Nuf sed. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/tongue.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":tongue:" title="tongue :tongue:" data-shortname=":tongue:" /></p><p></p><p>I know you love your family more than life. Nuf sed. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>My next email back to K would be - </p><p></p><p>The definition of insanity - </p><p></p><p>Doing the same things over and over and over and expecting a different result or outcome each time. </p><p></p><p>Love - Mom Lisa Nuf sed - <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/felttip/whiteflag.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":whiteflag:" title="whiteflag :whiteflag:" data-shortname=":whiteflag:" /></p><p></p><p>My back burner brain thought on this since I lived with a man who could have well taught K's husband everything he knows and rated K's husband a D- student? His type of people burn the wick at both ends everywhere they go. They are well aware of ALL the resources to them. Church and church people are usually a very very last resource because church people like you to do something for the money - come to church and be good, and live a lifestyle that is decent. No drugs, no PORN (DO YOU HEAR ME HERE?), find a job, no booze, attend Sunday school, Church, WEdnesday night meetings, help out in the Nursery, etc, etc. simply put - be like them and enjoy FELLOWSHIP. People like K and her husband - are loners. While I'm not saying that anyone can't change or that miracles don't happen - Keep thinking D- student looking for the last reserve. been there done that - what can I get and what do I have to do to get it? Can I do what they want to get what I want because all other avenues are exhausted? Not really but I have no choice. All other avenues are exhausted. </p><p></p><p>My other thoughts are that originally he'll go. He'll make a showing with her and the kids. He'll "try". Then for whatever reason one Sunday - he'll not go - but SHE and the kids will go. He'll stay at the hotel. Then there will be a reason he won't go. Someone looked at him, someone "judged" him whatever it is - he'll find an excuse. Eventually the congregation will forgive him, pray for him and just accept he's not coming but feel sorry for her and the kids and continue to help her - AND continue to support ALL of them because of the children - THIS HE KNEW from the GIT GO. It may be that she likes church and tries to bring him back - he refuses - she insists and eventually she gets tired of it too....now she's doing all the "work". And she's sick of him doing NOTHING (as usual) and she wants out of there. So she mentions that they want to move HOME. HOME??? Yes we have family in OHIO....and this gets them out of the nice church and they are free to move and out of the watchful eye of the church.....and they move. Because they are tired of playing the game, not comfortable with the "life" and have exhausted all other avenues - and they can't say "Well we'd like to try the church down the road"- because they really are just tired of churchish stuff. Or it may be that she really enjoys church and the kids like it but HE is tired of the person that she's becoming from going. </p><p>The former is more likely - leopards don't usually change their spots. But if it is the former another thing enters my mind - and that's the entire thing about eluding to breaking up ---could be a ploy to get HER there, and set up and then send for him. Heck - they could survive a 6-9 month separation. Especially if it meant a home and a paycheck for him to slither right back into. And a car? WOW - and food? And her going to school for a better job? And a babysitter for the kids? *you, Nicole and a Grandpa? WOW. Yeah....</p><p></p><p>I'm sorry to be the cynical Auntie here. I know the unwritten rule is we love ALL of our kids unconditionally - and I I do...but I also care about you and I know your heart is 10 times too big when it comes to strays and kids and I can't imagine how it is for stray grandchildren. lol (Enormous) ??? Understatement of the year. </p><p></p><p>And the first thing you said about this all was - she's not even here and already something that is supposed to be joyous is stressful. Repeat your own words to yourself hon......SHE IS NOT EVEN HERE AND IT IS STRESSFUL. What do you think it would be like when she IS there? </p><p></p><p>Bleck.....I am sorry - I'm not usually the voice of the dark side...but this one just reallllllllllly I dunno....I took my time with it too. So.....take it for what it's worth or get angry with me......or throw my socks out or let my donkey out of the pen....but I just wanted to tell you from the point of view from someone who has lived with a master manipulator. They prey...they don't change.....and they make you think they're leaving....and they never really stay gone. I don't belive he's out of her life or heading out. I think he hears - $ cha ching, car and sitter.....home, and is coaching her. I'm not alltogehter sure about the brain thing she hit you with and now this..I doubted her then...and I'm still not a strong supporter of her truths</p><p></p><p>I hope I'm wrong. I really do. Don't want you to be mad at me really...</p><p></p><p>Better go get my donkey from the field.....<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Star*, post: 311364, member: 4964"] Daisy - You know I love you very much. Nuf sed. :raspberry-tounge: I know you love your family more than life. Nuf sed. :winking: My next email back to K would be - The definition of insanity - Doing the same things over and over and over and expecting a different result or outcome each time. Love - Mom Lisa Nuf sed - :whiteflag: My back burner brain thought on this since I lived with a man who could have well taught K's husband everything he knows and rated K's husband a D- student? His type of people burn the wick at both ends everywhere they go. They are well aware of ALL the resources to them. Church and church people are usually a very very last resource because church people like you to do something for the money - come to church and be good, and live a lifestyle that is decent. No drugs, no PORN (DO YOU HEAR ME HERE?), find a job, no booze, attend Sunday school, Church, WEdnesday night meetings, help out in the Nursery, etc, etc. simply put - be like them and enjoy FELLOWSHIP. People like K and her husband - are loners. While I'm not saying that anyone can't change or that miracles don't happen - Keep thinking D- student looking for the last reserve. been there done that - what can I get and what do I have to do to get it? Can I do what they want to get what I want because all other avenues are exhausted? Not really but I have no choice. All other avenues are exhausted. My other thoughts are that originally he'll go. He'll make a showing with her and the kids. He'll "try". Then for whatever reason one Sunday - he'll not go - but SHE and the kids will go. He'll stay at the hotel. Then there will be a reason he won't go. Someone looked at him, someone "judged" him whatever it is - he'll find an excuse. Eventually the congregation will forgive him, pray for him and just accept he's not coming but feel sorry for her and the kids and continue to help her - AND continue to support ALL of them because of the children - THIS HE KNEW from the GIT GO. It may be that she likes church and tries to bring him back - he refuses - she insists and eventually she gets tired of it too....now she's doing all the "work". And she's sick of him doing NOTHING (as usual) and she wants out of there. So she mentions that they want to move HOME. HOME??? Yes we have family in OHIO....and this gets them out of the nice church and they are free to move and out of the watchful eye of the church.....and they move. Because they are tired of playing the game, not comfortable with the "life" and have exhausted all other avenues - and they can't say "Well we'd like to try the church down the road"- because they really are just tired of churchish stuff. Or it may be that she really enjoys church and the kids like it but HE is tired of the person that she's becoming from going. The former is more likely - leopards don't usually change their spots. But if it is the former another thing enters my mind - and that's the entire thing about eluding to breaking up ---could be a ploy to get HER there, and set up and then send for him. Heck - they could survive a 6-9 month separation. Especially if it meant a home and a paycheck for him to slither right back into. And a car? WOW - and food? And her going to school for a better job? And a babysitter for the kids? *you, Nicole and a Grandpa? WOW. Yeah.... I'm sorry to be the cynical Auntie here. I know the unwritten rule is we love ALL of our kids unconditionally - and I I do...but I also care about you and I know your heart is 10 times too big when it comes to strays and kids and I can't imagine how it is for stray grandchildren. lol (Enormous) ??? Understatement of the year. And the first thing you said about this all was - she's not even here and already something that is supposed to be joyous is stressful. Repeat your own words to yourself hon......SHE IS NOT EVEN HERE AND IT IS STRESSFUL. What do you think it would be like when she IS there? Bleck.....I am sorry - I'm not usually the voice of the dark side...but this one just reallllllllllly I dunno....I took my time with it too. So.....take it for what it's worth or get angry with me......or throw my socks out or let my donkey out of the pen....but I just wanted to tell you from the point of view from someone who has lived with a master manipulator. They prey...they don't change.....and they make you think they're leaving....and they never really stay gone. I don't belive he's out of her life or heading out. I think he hears - $ cha ching, car and sitter.....home, and is coaching her. I'm not alltogehter sure about the brain thing she hit you with and now this..I doubted her then...and I'm still not a strong supporter of her truths I hope I'm wrong. I really do. Don't want you to be mad at me really... Better go get my donkey from the field.....:frowny:. [/QUOTE]
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