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That has been a difficulty here, for sure.  When husband melts down or rages, he absolutely is not inside.......neither is oldest difficult child.  Hard to consequence someone who is not there. 

wHAT I have done is install rules etc based on safety.  My kids did not get grounded, they got held home cuz it was unsafe for them to be out and about.  Not sure if thats natural or logical consequwences, and it was not meant to be punishment, but, if they are not inside themself, then they sure cannot be doing certain things.


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