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<blockquote data-quote="Star*" data-source="post: 96648" data-attributes="member: 4964"><p>I am not taking sides, but....</p><p></p><p>In our home we converted a two car garage into a MAN den. It's absolutely filthy by my standards, dusty to the point of rivaling Tuts tomb, has natural cobwebs (great effect at Halloween), and the floors are not swept, the dogs LOVE it and DF has a TV, his junk, smokes out there, has his friends out there and I have not, can not , will not say a single word about the 'hole' ever. When we got the house it has a detached garage/stable thing and a huge potting shed with electricity and water (I took that) he took the garage for the motorcycle, boat, truck, backhoe - and the den. </p><p></p><p>When my friends are there - he is in HIS 'getter'. When kids come to visit - he is in HIS 'getter'. </p><p></p><p>I was told he would be a much more helpful, understanding, likable person if he had a place of his own to go - a He Man Woman Haters Club of sorts. Only once did I ever try to 'fix' it up. </p><p></p><p>It has the essence of a biker bar without the liquor. We have dead things hanging on their wall plaques, stuffed frogs playing pool, antique saws, biker memorabilia, pictures, long swords, cross bow, knives (he makes) antlers, our sons artwork (fantastic), 4 life size bulletin boards with pegs and pins to hang up the most unusual junk....and it's HIS place. The rest of the house is mine to decorate and clean to my little hearts desire. </p><p></p><p>Since we arrived at this agreement where he can do anything from nap to carve in private - it works for us. He's happy, his friends are delirious with envy that it's just HIS and I never intrude - just to stock the fridge or get a soda once in a while, and they come to our house relax, and then go home. Their wives don't understand - but were surprised when they came to visit at the "man crud" until they walked through the door in the kitchen to the rest of the house. It's like night and day. </p><p></p><p>Even as a kid I remember my dad needing a place of his own to "hide" from us (who could blame him we were precious) hahah. </p><p>He had a den, his recliner, a tv - and mom never bothered a thing in there. </p><p></p><p>Maybe DF just needs a place like that. I have the entire house to myself when he's in his "cave" haha. It works for us and he's not cranky about not having a place to go, a tv to watch or the kids running in and out. </p><p></p><p>Works for us - and the beauty is - he likes to be home. </p><p></p><p>Just a window into my world. </p><p>Hug</p><p>Star</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Star*, post: 96648, member: 4964"] I am not taking sides, but.... In our home we converted a two car garage into a MAN den. It's absolutely filthy by my standards, dusty to the point of rivaling Tuts tomb, has natural cobwebs (great effect at Halloween), and the floors are not swept, the dogs LOVE it and DF has a TV, his junk, smokes out there, has his friends out there and I have not, can not , will not say a single word about the 'hole' ever. When we got the house it has a detached garage/stable thing and a huge potting shed with electricity and water (I took that) he took the garage for the motorcycle, boat, truck, backhoe - and the den. When my friends are there - he is in HIS 'getter'. When kids come to visit - he is in HIS 'getter'. I was told he would be a much more helpful, understanding, likable person if he had a place of his own to go - a He Man Woman Haters Club of sorts. Only once did I ever try to 'fix' it up. It has the essence of a biker bar without the liquor. We have dead things hanging on their wall plaques, stuffed frogs playing pool, antique saws, biker memorabilia, pictures, long swords, cross bow, knives (he makes) antlers, our sons artwork (fantastic), 4 life size bulletin boards with pegs and pins to hang up the most unusual junk....and it's HIS place. The rest of the house is mine to decorate and clean to my little hearts desire. Since we arrived at this agreement where he can do anything from nap to carve in private - it works for us. He's happy, his friends are delirious with envy that it's just HIS and I never intrude - just to stock the fridge or get a soda once in a while, and they come to our house relax, and then go home. Their wives don't understand - but were surprised when they came to visit at the "man crud" until they walked through the door in the kitchen to the rest of the house. It's like night and day. Even as a kid I remember my dad needing a place of his own to "hide" from us (who could blame him we were precious) hahah. He had a den, his recliner, a tv - and mom never bothered a thing in there. Maybe DF just needs a place like that. I have the entire house to myself when he's in his "cave" haha. It works for us and he's not cranky about not having a place to go, a tv to watch or the kids running in and out. Works for us - and the beauty is - he likes to be home. Just a window into my world. Hug Star [/QUOTE]
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