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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 466860" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>A lot of us "jump" to an autism based diagnosis partly because we have seen our own children with these behaviors and seen how far they can improve with the right treatment. There is a LOT of hope for autism diagnosis's and almost none for a conduct disorder diagnosis, at least from what we have seen and heard.</p><p></p><p>I am sorry he is so violent and hard to live with and love. I DO understand. I spent YEARS being sure that my very brilliant child was going to spend his life in prison for killing either his little sister or me. </p><p></p><p>I find it HIGHLY premature to jump to this diagnosis without doing testing. I do find it very possible that this could be the true problem, or one of them, because I know that some people are just born different that way, just like some are born geniuses or as the sweetest people you could meet. I do think that you will find help for the sensory stuff and other things to be very valuable. </p><p></p><p>I ALWAYS advise moms to trust their instincts. We have them for a reason. When people were POSITIVE that Wiz just was too great a kid to ever hurt his sister it didn't stop me from making sure that they were never in a room with-o an adult in it, not even for ten seconds. While he does NOT have conduct disorder, although a few docs tried to diagnosis it, he was incredibly violent in word, thought and action. </p><p></p><p>So if your gut is saying this is it, I will trust you. I don't know you or him, but you do. I do see autistic aspects to his behavior as you have reported it to us. But I am NOT a doctor.</p><p></p><p>I would insist on all the testing that is possible, because if you can help in ANY aspect then it should help overall. </p><p></p><p>I urge you to start calling 911 for transport to a psychiatric hospital when he is violent. It will end up getting treatment a LOT faster and you will need that paper trail of his violence when it comes to moving him into a residential setting. Children with conduct disorder really need resdential, in depth treatment - not just to help them but also to protect the rest of the family. If he has conduct disorder it is highly probable, in my opinion at least, that in time he will be strong enough and sneaky enough to be a real danger to the entire family. If you can't get residential treatment then you may even have to consider turning him over to social services to protect the rest of the family. It is HARD and it HURTS, but not as bad a burying someone or having him kill you and leave your kids with-o you. </p><p></p><p>Sorry, that isn't terribly hopeful. I do hope and pray that with help things will change greatly and they will find some reason for the behavior and that will lead to a way to help him and all of you. But you must make safety the top priority and if he hurts your other children you will have to put their needs and their right to be safe above his rights to live in your home. </p><p></p><p>I am sorry we frustrate you. We don't mean to. But a lot of people over the years have come here and said it is a conduct disorder diagnosis and then after testing found that it was a whole different ballgame and treatment made a huge difference. We are trying to give you new avenues to explore and hope that things can get better. </p><p></p><p>(((((hugs))))) Mornings like that are just awful. I hope tomorrow is better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 466860, member: 1233"] A lot of us "jump" to an autism based diagnosis partly because we have seen our own children with these behaviors and seen how far they can improve with the right treatment. There is a LOT of hope for autism diagnosis's and almost none for a conduct disorder diagnosis, at least from what we have seen and heard. I am sorry he is so violent and hard to live with and love. I DO understand. I spent YEARS being sure that my very brilliant child was going to spend his life in prison for killing either his little sister or me. I find it HIGHLY premature to jump to this diagnosis without doing testing. I do find it very possible that this could be the true problem, or one of them, because I know that some people are just born different that way, just like some are born geniuses or as the sweetest people you could meet. I do think that you will find help for the sensory stuff and other things to be very valuable. I ALWAYS advise moms to trust their instincts. We have them for a reason. When people were POSITIVE that Wiz just was too great a kid to ever hurt his sister it didn't stop me from making sure that they were never in a room with-o an adult in it, not even for ten seconds. While he does NOT have conduct disorder, although a few docs tried to diagnosis it, he was incredibly violent in word, thought and action. So if your gut is saying this is it, I will trust you. I don't know you or him, but you do. I do see autistic aspects to his behavior as you have reported it to us. But I am NOT a doctor. I would insist on all the testing that is possible, because if you can help in ANY aspect then it should help overall. I urge you to start calling 911 for transport to a psychiatric hospital when he is violent. It will end up getting treatment a LOT faster and you will need that paper trail of his violence when it comes to moving him into a residential setting. Children with conduct disorder really need resdential, in depth treatment - not just to help them but also to protect the rest of the family. If he has conduct disorder it is highly probable, in my opinion at least, that in time he will be strong enough and sneaky enough to be a real danger to the entire family. If you can't get residential treatment then you may even have to consider turning him over to social services to protect the rest of the family. It is HARD and it HURTS, but not as bad a burying someone or having him kill you and leave your kids with-o you. Sorry, that isn't terribly hopeful. I do hope and pray that with help things will change greatly and they will find some reason for the behavior and that will lead to a way to help him and all of you. But you must make safety the top priority and if he hurts your other children you will have to put their needs and their right to be safe above his rights to live in your home. I am sorry we frustrate you. We don't mean to. But a lot of people over the years have come here and said it is a conduct disorder diagnosis and then after testing found that it was a whole different ballgame and treatment made a huge difference. We are trying to give you new avenues to explore and hope that things can get better. (((((hugs))))) Mornings like that are just awful. I hope tomorrow is better. [/QUOTE]
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