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<blockquote data-quote="toughlovin" data-source="post: 664262" data-attributes="member: 15801"><p>Obviously I dont know what the counselor said but I think the strategy you heard sounds best for a couple of reasons.</p><p></p><p>1. Getting him there is not enough and he already has a counselor so why would he go to another one? I think your being clear and up front about your conditions is better because then at least you are being honest and clear and are not playing games. He is manipulative, and your trying to get him to a counselor without telling him the requirements is also manipulative .... he will see right through it and then turn on you and say you are bieng manipulative.</p><p></p><p>2. Getting him there is not enough....he will say what he thinks they want to hear and if he is not being drug tested then who knows? </p><p></p><p>3. The counselor wont be able to tell you anything without medical releases... they probably wont tell you a lot anyways because they want to keep a relationship going with your son.</p><p></p><p>Be prepared, given that your son is not really interested in help this is going to be a tough road. I have been on this road and it is hard.... I think given the age of your son it is worth trying but just be prepared it may not work....</p><p></p><p>TL</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toughlovin, post: 664262, member: 15801"] Obviously I dont know what the counselor said but I think the strategy you heard sounds best for a couple of reasons. 1. Getting him there is not enough and he already has a counselor so why would he go to another one? I think your being clear and up front about your conditions is better because then at least you are being honest and clear and are not playing games. He is manipulative, and your trying to get him to a counselor without telling him the requirements is also manipulative .... he will see right through it and then turn on you and say you are bieng manipulative. 2. Getting him there is not enough....he will say what he thinks they want to hear and if he is not being drug tested then who knows? 3. The counselor wont be able to tell you anything without medical releases... they probably wont tell you a lot anyways because they want to keep a relationship going with your son. Be prepared, given that your son is not really interested in help this is going to be a tough road. I have been on this road and it is hard.... I think given the age of your son it is worth trying but just be prepared it may not work.... TL [/QUOTE]
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