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<blockquote data-quote="CindyTN" data-source="post: 220854" data-attributes="member: 6476"><p>I'm sorry, but I have to jump in here again because I want to address a couple of comments made. Some of the advice I'm reading, in my opinion, so very dangerous. I know I won't win a popularity contest, and I'll probably get some hate-mail, but that's OK if it means this 13 year old child gets the proper treatment. I think there are some parents here who have dealt with autism for a long time, as have I, who have begun to "see" those symptoms where they don't truly lie. Here's a few examples:</p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: green">"This kid has so many red flags for a spectrum child that I would not delay. Even the asking to kiss the girl is so inappropriate and smacks of having no social understanding, which is what Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) is."</span></em></p><p> </p><p>This is NOT Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD)!!!!! Trying to kiss a sister inappropriately, if he knew what he was doing, is definitely not autism. Unless a developmental delay exists, how can you POSSIBLY blame this behavior on Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD)? Does that mean that sexual predators are alo autistic because they also don't have a "social understanding"? It scares me that this is being "blamed" on autism. It can be a myriad of different things, but it's definitely not a "known symptom" of autism. It could be a 13 year old being hypersexual. It could be a 13 year old being a 13 year old. It could be hypersexuality due to bipolar (MANY MANY MANY ADHD children are misdiagnosed and are actually bipolar). It could be just outright conduct disorder. But I refuse to accept someone diagnosing this as autism, when you don't have a supporting history on this child. NOTHING this parent has said has screamed "autism." </p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: green">"Lack of eye contact is classic."</span></em> </p><p> </p><p>Yes, you're right. Lack of eye contact is classic for autism spectrum. HOWEVER, it is also very classic for average TEENAGERS. LOL Come on now! How many teenagers around like to look their parents in the eye and talk to them? A large majority of them are trying to distance themselves at this age. It's NORMAL! COMPLETELY NORMAL! Now, if you find out that it was a problem as a very young child/baby/toddler, then we have to consider Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD).</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I'm just honestly blown away by the number of people suggesting to this lady that her 13 year old son could be autistic. Did anybody think of the idea that SOMEBODY AT SOME POINT in his life would have suggesed this if the symptoms truly existed? The child is 13, not 6 or 3. There would have been significant issues with his ability to process information in a classroom prior to this time if it was Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) (even if he were high-functioning as my son is). I would just reallly love to see people stop, take a deep breath, and ask yourselves if you are trying to project your child's situation onto another parent where it doesn't actually fit. </p><p> </p><p>I have a very long medical background and have studied these things for a very long time. I have a few other family members with a medical psychiatric background, adn we have talked at length of these things. I'm sure a lot of you have also done tons of studies on these things as well. But I have to call a pig a pig here. It doesn't fit. What more likely fits (and I hate to suggest it because I'm as guilty of what everybody else is doing) is bipolar and/or conduct disorder. These symptoms are more symptomatic of bipolar than anything else. </p><p> </p><p>Get the "neuro" exam, if it will make you feel better after all these suggestions of your child being autistic. But I wouldn't bet on it panning out. It sounds like you need a more intensive psychiatric exam with 1 or 2 new people. One other thing, stimulant medications are known to contribute to these behaviors. I'm sitting idle by waiting right now to see how my son will react long-term to him being discontinued on his stimulant medication. In his case, the doctor felt like my son was misdiagnosed and is trying some new things. He felt that the medication was contributing to the aggression, although it definitely helped the severe ADHD symptoms. Hopefully it will work out, and I'm anxious to see if he can be stabilized without the ADHD medicine. I completely understand the specialist's theory, and I won't go into detail on it, but it makes complete sense. This isn't something I would do at home, but since he's in a highly accredited treatment facility, I am willing to give it a try.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CindyTN, post: 220854, member: 6476"] I'm sorry, but I have to jump in here again because I want to address a couple of comments made. Some of the advice I'm reading, in my opinion, so very dangerous. I know I won't win a popularity contest, and I'll probably get some hate-mail, but that's OK if it means this 13 year old child gets the proper treatment. I think there are some parents here who have dealt with autism for a long time, as have I, who have begun to "see" those symptoms where they don't truly lie. Here's a few examples: [I][COLOR=green]"This kid has so many red flags for a spectrum child that I would not delay. Even the asking to kiss the girl is so inappropriate and smacks of having no social understanding, which is what Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) is."[/COLOR][/I] This is NOT Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD)!!!!! Trying to kiss a sister inappropriately, if he knew what he was doing, is definitely not autism. Unless a developmental delay exists, how can you POSSIBLY blame this behavior on Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD)? Does that mean that sexual predators are alo autistic because they also don't have a "social understanding"? It scares me that this is being "blamed" on autism. It can be a myriad of different things, but it's definitely not a "known symptom" of autism. It could be a 13 year old being hypersexual. It could be a 13 year old being a 13 year old. It could be hypersexuality due to bipolar (MANY MANY MANY ADHD children are misdiagnosed and are actually bipolar). It could be just outright conduct disorder. But I refuse to accept someone diagnosing this as autism, when you don't have a supporting history on this child. NOTHING this parent has said has screamed "autism." [I][COLOR=green]"Lack of eye contact is classic."[/COLOR][/I] Yes, you're right. Lack of eye contact is classic for autism spectrum. HOWEVER, it is also very classic for average TEENAGERS. LOL Come on now! How many teenagers around like to look their parents in the eye and talk to them? A large majority of them are trying to distance themselves at this age. It's NORMAL! COMPLETELY NORMAL! Now, if you find out that it was a problem as a very young child/baby/toddler, then we have to consider Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). I'm just honestly blown away by the number of people suggesting to this lady that her 13 year old son could be autistic. Did anybody think of the idea that SOMEBODY AT SOME POINT in his life would have suggesed this if the symptoms truly existed? The child is 13, not 6 or 3. There would have been significant issues with his ability to process information in a classroom prior to this time if it was Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) (even if he were high-functioning as my son is). I would just reallly love to see people stop, take a deep breath, and ask yourselves if you are trying to project your child's situation onto another parent where it doesn't actually fit. I have a very long medical background and have studied these things for a very long time. I have a few other family members with a medical psychiatric background, adn we have talked at length of these things. I'm sure a lot of you have also done tons of studies on these things as well. But I have to call a pig a pig here. It doesn't fit. What more likely fits (and I hate to suggest it because I'm as guilty of what everybody else is doing) is bipolar and/or conduct disorder. These symptoms are more symptomatic of bipolar than anything else. Get the "neuro" exam, if it will make you feel better after all these suggestions of your child being autistic. But I wouldn't bet on it panning out. It sounds like you need a more intensive psychiatric exam with 1 or 2 new people. One other thing, stimulant medications are known to contribute to these behaviors. I'm sitting idle by waiting right now to see how my son will react long-term to him being discontinued on his stimulant medication. In his case, the doctor felt like my son was misdiagnosed and is trying some new things. He felt that the medication was contributing to the aggression, although it definitely helped the severe ADHD symptoms. Hopefully it will work out, and I'm anxious to see if he can be stabilized without the ADHD medicine. I completely understand the specialist's theory, and I won't go into detail on it, but it makes complete sense. This isn't something I would do at home, but since he's in a highly accredited treatment facility, I am willing to give it a try. [/QUOTE]
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