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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 53165" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>I have to go back and read all the posts. I read something that caught my attention. There is NO scientific test (none, nada, zip) for ADHD, bipolar, Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD), anything. Anyone who tells you that there is is feeding you misinformation and I'd call the doctor a quack. The Connors test can indicate ADHD traits, but kids with bipolar and Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) will also score off-the-charts on that test. My son even took a computer test for ADHD, which is supposed to be most accurate, and he flunked the test (meaning he SHOULD have ADHD), however ADHD was not his core problem--he is Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD), which always includes a heavy dose of impulsivity and inattention. To date, the problem is that we can't know for sure what a child has. A lot is response. I am no doctor, never claimed to be, but since ADHD medications aren't doing squat, why even use them? They can be dangerous in the wrong kids. And I had to laugh that your poor child got Zoloft for anger issues. Both stimulants AND things like Zoloft can CAUSE anger. The last thing I'd do is allow my psychiatrist to prescribe an antidepressant in a violent child--not without trying an antipsychotic or a mood stabilizer first. I've had to get a layperson's knowledge of medications because I have bipolar and have experienced most of the drugs--I learned I had to arm myself by educating myself before taking anything. I had numerous bad to horrendous reactions before getting help. My son did too--son is now medication free. He didn't even need medications. You aren't doing your kids a disservice to discontinue medications THAT DON'T HELP OR MAKE THEM WORSE. Stims are not the answer to every disorder or every child, and my son couldn't take them OR antidepressants. *I* need an antidepressant, however it was a long trial and error and only one works for me. I'm always shocked at how casually doctors give out medications. It's like "try and see." I wish they'd do a more careful job of diagnosing...they can. They just don't.</p><p>I would not allow a GP to either diagnose or monitor medications for a psychiatric or neurological disorder. They don't have the training. Do you have a neuropsychologist in your network? If so, I'd go there next. in my opinion and experience they actually test better than Psychiatrists and tend to cover both psychiatric and neurological disorders. While t here is no blood test or guarantees, they do a lot (LOTS) of testing that point to certain disorders and, in our case, a neuropsychologist was the only one who got my complicated son correct. He had been so terribly misdiagnosed. I would not trust any Psychiatrist either who would give a child both stimulants and antidepressants at the same time...wow. That's a rush-and-a-half. I'm pro-medication, but I believe you first have to be 95% comfortable that the diagnosis is correct and then you see if the medications work. If, within the right span of time, they don't work, I have always had the psychiatrists discontinue the medication. Be proactive, educate yourself on the various disorders and medications, and be a partner with your doctor. The more you know, the more you can advocate for your kids. An IEP in school is very important for school success, but it won't cure the problem. I'd get thee kids to a neuropsyche :smile: Take care. PS--Since school teachers, administrators, and even school psycologists tend not to be the brightest bulbs on the Christmas Tree regarding childhood disorders, I wouldn't tell them what you do at home or the treatment they get from private doctors. It's none of their business. The fact is, high structure is great for kids with ADHD/bipolar/Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) and, if they don't know that, it's because they don't have the right education and knowledge. You are doing the right thing, no matter what they say. I'd ignore the school people and tell them "we have them in private treatment." When it comes to the IEP time, after they are re-evaluated, you can bring the results and recommendations, but you don't need to tell them everything, especially not what you do in your home. I've learned not to tell them much because they really don't tend to "get it."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 53165, member: 1550"] I have to go back and read all the posts. I read something that caught my attention. There is NO scientific test (none, nada, zip) for ADHD, bipolar, Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD), anything. Anyone who tells you that there is is feeding you misinformation and I'd call the doctor a quack. The Connors test can indicate ADHD traits, but kids with bipolar and Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) will also score off-the-charts on that test. My son even took a computer test for ADHD, which is supposed to be most accurate, and he flunked the test (meaning he SHOULD have ADHD), however ADHD was not his core problem--he is Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD), which always includes a heavy dose of impulsivity and inattention. To date, the problem is that we can't know for sure what a child has. A lot is response. I am no doctor, never claimed to be, but since ADHD medications aren't doing squat, why even use them? They can be dangerous in the wrong kids. And I had to laugh that your poor child got Zoloft for anger issues. Both stimulants AND things like Zoloft can CAUSE anger. The last thing I'd do is allow my psychiatrist to prescribe an antidepressant in a violent child--not without trying an antipsychotic or a mood stabilizer first. I've had to get a layperson's knowledge of medications because I have bipolar and have experienced most of the drugs--I learned I had to arm myself by educating myself before taking anything. I had numerous bad to horrendous reactions before getting help. My son did too--son is now medication free. He didn't even need medications. You aren't doing your kids a disservice to discontinue medications THAT DON'T HELP OR MAKE THEM WORSE. Stims are not the answer to every disorder or every child, and my son couldn't take them OR antidepressants. *I* need an antidepressant, however it was a long trial and error and only one works for me. I'm always shocked at how casually doctors give out medications. It's like "try and see." I wish they'd do a more careful job of diagnosing...they can. They just don't. I would not allow a GP to either diagnose or monitor medications for a psychiatric or neurological disorder. They don't have the training. Do you have a neuropsychologist in your network? If so, I'd go there next. in my opinion and experience they actually test better than Psychiatrists and tend to cover both psychiatric and neurological disorders. While t here is no blood test or guarantees, they do a lot (LOTS) of testing that point to certain disorders and, in our case, a neuropsychologist was the only one who got my complicated son correct. He had been so terribly misdiagnosed. I would not trust any Psychiatrist either who would give a child both stimulants and antidepressants at the same time...wow. That's a rush-and-a-half. I'm pro-medication, but I believe you first have to be 95% comfortable that the diagnosis is correct and then you see if the medications work. If, within the right span of time, they don't work, I have always had the psychiatrists discontinue the medication. Be proactive, educate yourself on the various disorders and medications, and be a partner with your doctor. The more you know, the more you can advocate for your kids. An IEP in school is very important for school success, but it won't cure the problem. I'd get thee kids to a neuropsyche [img]:smile:[/img] Take care. PS--Since school teachers, administrators, and even school psycologists tend not to be the brightest bulbs on the Christmas Tree regarding childhood disorders, I wouldn't tell them what you do at home or the treatment they get from private doctors. It's none of their business. The fact is, high structure is great for kids with ADHD/bipolar/Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) and, if they don't know that, it's because they don't have the right education and knowledge. You are doing the right thing, no matter what they say. I'd ignore the school people and tell them "we have them in private treatment." When it comes to the IEP time, after they are re-evaluated, you can bring the results and recommendations, but you don't need to tell them everything, especially not what you do in your home. I've learned not to tell them much because they really don't tend to "get it." [/QUOTE]
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