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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 154141" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>I have four adopted kids (we actually adopted six, but two can't live with us anymore). Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS) is organic brain damage and the kids really CAN'T learn from mistakes and also have a very very tough time retaining information. ODD is usually just an offshoot of another disorder. With Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS) the kids really aren't to blame for their behavior. It's not a mental illness or a behavioral disorder--it's a mental deficit due to the alcohol. They are victims, not bad kids. They often end up in jail as adults because they repeat the same mistakes over and over again. in my opinion Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) kids are best taught in a small setting. </p><p>I"ve read quite a bit about it and they are making strides in understanding Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) (which affect kids the same ways). Often they seem like "bad" kids without a conscience, but they just don't understand cause and effect. The latest book I read (and I CAN'T remember the name of the book!) had adults with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) and their input. All were relieved when they learned why they continuously repeated the same mistakes over and over again and didn't "get it." They agreed that the best "treatment" is very close monitoring both as kids and aduts. They do need people to keep them out of trouble because they can't (not, won't, but CAN'T) learn how to make good choices. Many Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) kids repeat the drinking and end up losing children to social services. Although the topic interests me, I don't have any kids that really exhibit Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) behavior, although one had a crack using birthmom too (he is on the autism spectrum, but understands cause and affect and is doing well). For a while we thought he may have Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) because he was so hyper, but he got a lot better--way too much better to have Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE). </p><p>It is unfair to expect teachers to understand how to teach kids with Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE). They have "swiss cheese learning" meaning--picture a piece of swiss cheese. One day they may remember the alphabet. THe next day they may lose that memory in one of the holes. The next day they may remember again. It is very frustrating and difficult. So far there is no cure and the best help are interventions and very close supervisions throughout life. The parents of kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) that I know who tried to let their kids go off on their own were sorry--almost all of them got pregnant and drink and lost custody of their children. They can live a quality life if they are watched closely to sort of save them from themselves. It is not a behavior problem--it's a real physical problem. I would get help from a doctor who totally understands Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE). It may be hard to find one, but some adoption agencies know of resources for kids, as do some adoptive parent groups. We took our son to a great Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) treatament center in Chicago and it's great. It's one of the best in the country. Good luck!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 154141, member: 1550"] I have four adopted kids (we actually adopted six, but two can't live with us anymore). Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS) is organic brain damage and the kids really CAN'T learn from mistakes and also have a very very tough time retaining information. ODD is usually just an offshoot of another disorder. With Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS) the kids really aren't to blame for their behavior. It's not a mental illness or a behavioral disorder--it's a mental deficit due to the alcohol. They are victims, not bad kids. They often end up in jail as adults because they repeat the same mistakes over and over again. in my opinion Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) kids are best taught in a small setting. I"ve read quite a bit about it and they are making strides in understanding Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) (which affect kids the same ways). Often they seem like "bad" kids without a conscience, but they just don't understand cause and effect. The latest book I read (and I CAN'T remember the name of the book!) had adults with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) and their input. All were relieved when they learned why they continuously repeated the same mistakes over and over again and didn't "get it." They agreed that the best "treatment" is very close monitoring both as kids and aduts. They do need people to keep them out of trouble because they can't (not, won't, but CAN'T) learn how to make good choices. Many Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) kids repeat the drinking and end up losing children to social services. Although the topic interests me, I don't have any kids that really exhibit Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) behavior, although one had a crack using birthmom too (he is on the autism spectrum, but understands cause and affect and is doing well). For a while we thought he may have Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) because he was so hyper, but he got a lot better--way too much better to have Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE). It is unfair to expect teachers to understand how to teach kids with Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE). They have "swiss cheese learning" meaning--picture a piece of swiss cheese. One day they may remember the alphabet. THe next day they may lose that memory in one of the holes. The next day they may remember again. It is very frustrating and difficult. So far there is no cure and the best help are interventions and very close supervisions throughout life. The parents of kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) that I know who tried to let their kids go off on their own were sorry--almost all of them got pregnant and drink and lost custody of their children. They can live a quality life if they are watched closely to sort of save them from themselves. It is not a behavior problem--it's a real physical problem. I would get help from a doctor who totally understands Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE). It may be hard to find one, but some adoption agencies know of resources for kids, as do some adoptive parent groups. We took our son to a great Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) treatament center in Chicago and it's great. It's one of the best in the country. Good luck! [/QUOTE]
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