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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 306017" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Welcome! Sorry if responses here are a bit slow. There is a lot more action on the general and watercooler forums. Many of us have difficult children who are much older, but we still remember what you are going through.</p><p></p><p>I will tell you now that most kids, boys and girls, do not hurt animals, steal food at 4 am, put knives in the nuker (I assume to see the sparks? or was he trying to start a fire? that will be important info to have).</p><p></p><p>I strongly recommend you get a FULL evaluation by a neuropsychologist (psychologist with special training in how the brain impacts behavior) AND also by a psychiatrist, an occupational therapist and a developmental pediatrician. With the problems your son is showing, the sooner you have him evaluated and can start on a road to helping him, the sooner things can get better. </p><p></p><p>You will hear ADHD and ODD. in my opinion (I am NOT a doctor, just a mom) you are dealing iwth a LOT more than that. ODD really means "I know he has the behaviors but I have no clue how to help." It describes what is going on and gives absolutely NO, ZIP, ZILCH,ZERO help or guidance. So it is pretty useless unless you like writing extra letters.</p><p></p><p>The pediatrician may or may not want to refer you to all those people. Be firm. If possible call your insurance co and get a list of providers so you can give some examples of names for the doctor to pick from. Make sure the psychiatrist is child and adolescent certified. The school will have and Occupational Therapist (OT). The assessment the school Occupational Therapist (OT) will do only covers how his academics are altered by Occupational Therapist (OT) problems. You want to have him evaluated privately for sensory integration disorder. It is very very important to do this. This is one of the few problems that actually has treatment that is proven to change how the brain handles sensory input with a treatment that includes no medicines. Sensory integration disorder means that the brain is not processing the input from the senses in the expected ways. "The Out Of Sync Child" is a great book about this. </p><p></p><p>The other experts will check for forms of autism, other developmental disorders, learning disabilities, etc... It sounds scary. It is kinda scary to go through. But if you don't do this now it is only going to get worse. Imagine him as a teen if he gets no help. How scary will that be? (I used that argument to get my husband on board when our son was showing problems.)</p><p></p><p>Right away you should get The Explosive Child and What Your Explosive Child Is Trying To Tell You. They are excellent books and they introduce a different kind of parenting. It can seem that these new ways are giving in to the child. The methods seem rather counterintuitive. But they work on difficult children more than any other parenting methods. </p><p></p><p>Make safety a primary concern. If he is hurting the pets, or the pets are afraid of him then the pets should go to new homes. It is not fair to make the pet live in fear.</p><p></p><p>This is a lot of info, so I will stop here. I am so glad you found us. This is a wonderful, warm, welcoming place. There is a lot of knowledge, vastly more wisdom, and even more support! If you don't get answers here, pop over to general and post there.</p><p></p><p>Also, because we have so many members, we can get all the info on your family, the problems, etc... confused. If you go to User CP at the top of the page you can make a signature, like the one at the bottom of my post, that will help us keep things straight. Just no pictures of your family, last names, or other identifying personal info, please.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 306017, member: 1233"] Welcome! Sorry if responses here are a bit slow. There is a lot more action on the general and watercooler forums. Many of us have difficult children who are much older, but we still remember what you are going through. I will tell you now that most kids, boys and girls, do not hurt animals, steal food at 4 am, put knives in the nuker (I assume to see the sparks? or was he trying to start a fire? that will be important info to have). I strongly recommend you get a FULL evaluation by a neuropsychologist (psychologist with special training in how the brain impacts behavior) AND also by a psychiatrist, an occupational therapist and a developmental pediatrician. With the problems your son is showing, the sooner you have him evaluated and can start on a road to helping him, the sooner things can get better. You will hear ADHD and ODD. in my opinion (I am NOT a doctor, just a mom) you are dealing iwth a LOT more than that. ODD really means "I know he has the behaviors but I have no clue how to help." It describes what is going on and gives absolutely NO, ZIP, ZILCH,ZERO help or guidance. So it is pretty useless unless you like writing extra letters. The pediatrician may or may not want to refer you to all those people. Be firm. If possible call your insurance co and get a list of providers so you can give some examples of names for the doctor to pick from. Make sure the psychiatrist is child and adolescent certified. The school will have and Occupational Therapist (OT). The assessment the school Occupational Therapist (OT) will do only covers how his academics are altered by Occupational Therapist (OT) problems. You want to have him evaluated privately for sensory integration disorder. It is very very important to do this. This is one of the few problems that actually has treatment that is proven to change how the brain handles sensory input with a treatment that includes no medicines. Sensory integration disorder means that the brain is not processing the input from the senses in the expected ways. "The Out Of Sync Child" is a great book about this. The other experts will check for forms of autism, other developmental disorders, learning disabilities, etc... It sounds scary. It is kinda scary to go through. But if you don't do this now it is only going to get worse. Imagine him as a teen if he gets no help. How scary will that be? (I used that argument to get my husband on board when our son was showing problems.) Right away you should get The Explosive Child and What Your Explosive Child Is Trying To Tell You. They are excellent books and they introduce a different kind of parenting. It can seem that these new ways are giving in to the child. The methods seem rather counterintuitive. But they work on difficult children more than any other parenting methods. Make safety a primary concern. If he is hurting the pets, or the pets are afraid of him then the pets should go to new homes. It is not fair to make the pet live in fear. This is a lot of info, so I will stop here. I am so glad you found us. This is a wonderful, warm, welcoming place. There is a lot of knowledge, vastly more wisdom, and even more support! If you don't get answers here, pop over to general and post there. Also, because we have so many members, we can get all the info on your family, the problems, etc... confused. If you go to User CP at the top of the page you can make a signature, like the one at the bottom of my post, that will help us keep things straight. Just no pictures of your family, last names, or other identifying personal info, please. [/QUOTE]
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