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<blockquote data-quote="InsaneCdn" data-source="post: 423514" data-attributes="member: 11791"><p>Sometimes, where you go depends on where you've come from...</p><p> </p><p>Ours is 14.5 and a mess - but SCHOOL made him that way, so we still fight the school battles. When the only way you can get the teacher to believe you is to tell lies - constantly - then what you learn at school is to lie - figure out what the teacher wants to hear. After 9+ years of that... sure, things are a mess. But school still doesn't believe that this happens - daily. And we just found a medical specialist that actually has some clue about the complexity, and the interplay of different issues (working against each other), and the need for someone other than parents to stand up to the school.</p><p> </p><p>We started getting real answers about where he is coming from, about 1.5 years ago. That's not his fault, and not ours. Between the schools and the medical systems... he wasn't "bad enough" to spend resources on, and had no one really good defining set of symptoms that would trigger a "hot button" diagnosis. (around here, anything in the autism spectrum has way more support than any other developmental disorder, pervasive or otherwise)</p><p> </p><p>Just in case there's any overlap... Has school always been a problem? or did it start at some other point? If its always been a problem since before the end of Grade 3, I'd be looking for hidden physical or neurological disabilities and missed learning disabilities. Hearing. Vision. Coordination. Dyslexia. Dysgraphia. Handwriting problems. Executive function issues. Is he good at ANYTHING in school? Phys Ed, music, art... or math... or social... each uses different skills. Some can be very good at Phys Ed, and horrible at handwriting - but because the kid is so coordinated on the playing field, teachers fail to see that there is actually a disability at play with the writing, and it gets treated (from a very young age) as attitude. In our experience, if attitude starts with puberty, then it might in fact be attitude. But attitude from a 6 year old? More likely, the adults on all fronts are missing something. (NOT usually the parents... they KNOW something is up, but can't get school or medical support to even agree that there IS a problem)</p><p> </p><p>But at 16.5... that's worse than 14.5. </p><p> </p><p><sigh> It could be us in a couple of years, though, if all of this doesn't work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsaneCdn, post: 423514, member: 11791"] Sometimes, where you go depends on where you've come from... Ours is 14.5 and a mess - but SCHOOL made him that way, so we still fight the school battles. When the only way you can get the teacher to believe you is to tell lies - constantly - then what you learn at school is to lie - figure out what the teacher wants to hear. After 9+ years of that... sure, things are a mess. But school still doesn't believe that this happens - daily. And we just found a medical specialist that actually has some clue about the complexity, and the interplay of different issues (working against each other), and the need for someone other than parents to stand up to the school. We started getting real answers about where he is coming from, about 1.5 years ago. That's not his fault, and not ours. Between the schools and the medical systems... he wasn't "bad enough" to spend resources on, and had no one really good defining set of symptoms that would trigger a "hot button" diagnosis. (around here, anything in the autism spectrum has way more support than any other developmental disorder, pervasive or otherwise) Just in case there's any overlap... Has school always been a problem? or did it start at some other point? If its always been a problem since before the end of Grade 3, I'd be looking for hidden physical or neurological disabilities and missed learning disabilities. Hearing. Vision. Coordination. Dyslexia. Dysgraphia. Handwriting problems. Executive function issues. Is he good at ANYTHING in school? Phys Ed, music, art... or math... or social... each uses different skills. Some can be very good at Phys Ed, and horrible at handwriting - but because the kid is so coordinated on the playing field, teachers fail to see that there is actually a disability at play with the writing, and it gets treated (from a very young age) as attitude. In our experience, if attitude starts with puberty, then it might in fact be attitude. But attitude from a 6 year old? More likely, the adults on all fronts are missing something. (NOT usually the parents... they KNOW something is up, but can't get school or medical support to even agree that there IS a problem) But at 16.5... that's worse than 14.5. <sigh> It could be us in a couple of years, though, if all of this doesn't work. [/QUOTE]
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