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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 512768" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Yes, a letter was attached and it was stated in nicer words- I guess I'd just had enough after typing up the letter and thinking of all the laws they've been breaking and feeling like we were intentionally being mislead and jerked around. I don't know if you all have ever read a typical parole plan or not, but it's basicly a list of the requirements and usually less than 2 pages long. This was much longer and like I said, and half of it was stating objectives one would find in an IEP or MH plan instead of parole requirements. Even if he's wanting to dictate the measurable goals for the counseling, which in my humble opinion is outside his area of professional ability, he didn't even write the things in terms of measurable goals. That's why I say it's so obvious he just doesn't know how to. And it makes me madder at those in charge of him and making sure he's trained and doing his job right than him but I end up taking it out on him because he's the POC and when I can tell he's trying to BS me or wing his way thru something, I end up losing my patience.</p><p></p><p>The other thing is that leaving it in terms like "difficult child will get a better understanding of the impact of his behavior" for a parole plan means that PO could violate difficult child if he decides difficult child doesn't understand enough. Also, making the counseling goals parole requirements would mean even if we comply with the counselor and mtgs, etc, but it isn't helping, difficult child could be violated. </p><p></p><p>Star, I'm not breaking the law and I'm sure of that. We would be if we were under court order but we aren't and I'm not the one on parole and he can't violate difficult child right now because difficult child isn't on parole yet. I'm trying to prevent him from leaving loopholes in the parole requirements that would allow him to violate difficult child even if difficult child hasn't really done something wrong. I am making sure that I don't insinuate he's (PO) done something wrong that I don't know for a fact is wrong/illegal. Otherwise, I word it like "it appears to me this would be against Department of Juvenile Justice regs". In this last letter, I pointed out 2 sections of state law by code # so he can look it up and they prove he hasn't complied but I stated them to him in the context of asking if he will providing "ABC" and "DEF" IAW with these laws soon. I hope he does look them up- I think he'll learn more about his responsibilities than they have taught him. I have talked to attnys and my choices were to contact ACLU and DOJ, which I have done, or to pay very big bucks for an attny to take Department of Juvenile Justice to court meaning they'd have to go up against the AG and probably be qualified to take it to the state supreme court. It would be similar to taking the sd to court when they aren't complyying with wrightslaw. Big Bucks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 512768, member: 3699"] Yes, a letter was attached and it was stated in nicer words- I guess I'd just had enough after typing up the letter and thinking of all the laws they've been breaking and feeling like we were intentionally being mislead and jerked around. I don't know if you all have ever read a typical parole plan or not, but it's basicly a list of the requirements and usually less than 2 pages long. This was much longer and like I said, and half of it was stating objectives one would find in an IEP or MH plan instead of parole requirements. Even if he's wanting to dictate the measurable goals for the counseling, which in my humble opinion is outside his area of professional ability, he didn't even write the things in terms of measurable goals. That's why I say it's so obvious he just doesn't know how to. And it makes me madder at those in charge of him and making sure he's trained and doing his job right than him but I end up taking it out on him because he's the POC and when I can tell he's trying to BS me or wing his way thru something, I end up losing my patience. The other thing is that leaving it in terms like "difficult child will get a better understanding of the impact of his behavior" for a parole plan means that PO could violate difficult child if he decides difficult child doesn't understand enough. Also, making the counseling goals parole requirements would mean even if we comply with the counselor and mtgs, etc, but it isn't helping, difficult child could be violated. Star, I'm not breaking the law and I'm sure of that. We would be if we were under court order but we aren't and I'm not the one on parole and he can't violate difficult child right now because difficult child isn't on parole yet. I'm trying to prevent him from leaving loopholes in the parole requirements that would allow him to violate difficult child even if difficult child hasn't really done something wrong. I am making sure that I don't insinuate he's (PO) done something wrong that I don't know for a fact is wrong/illegal. Otherwise, I word it like "it appears to me this would be against Department of Juvenile Justice regs". In this last letter, I pointed out 2 sections of state law by code # so he can look it up and they prove he hasn't complied but I stated them to him in the context of asking if he will providing "ABC" and "DEF" IAW with these laws soon. I hope he does look them up- I think he'll learn more about his responsibilities than they have taught him. I have talked to attnys and my choices were to contact ACLU and DOJ, which I have done, or to pay very big bucks for an attny to take Department of Juvenile Justice to court meaning they'd have to go up against the AG and probably be qualified to take it to the state supreme court. It would be similar to taking the sd to court when they aren't complyying with wrightslaw. Big Bucks. [/QUOTE]
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