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Once Again - All Mom's Fault (Just Shoot Me Now!)
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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 502167" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>OH H***NO!</p><p></p><p>Where is husband's responsibility in this? HOW is this not also HIS FAULT in the doctor's mind? WHY is it only YOUR fault???? </p><p></p><p>WHO gave this IDIOT a degree in anything but underwater basketweaving????</p><p></p><p>This IDIOT needs to be yanked from being around your child and EVERY other human being. </p><p></p><p>DO NOT GO BACK unless you are ready to rip her to shreds by challenging her every bit of stupidity masquerading as logic. </p><p></p><p>Write a letter to the head of whatever runs this and have a FIT!!!! I have RARELY heard of such incredibly unprofessional behavior.</p><p></p><p>Has this person ever SPOKEN to a kdg or first grade teacher or ANY teacher and tried to tell them to hold a child to higher standards than the other kids? THE TEACHER CANNOT DO THAT. NOTHING you say could have gotten ANY teacher to do that. EVER. PERIOD. </p><p></p><p>I know parents who have tried. I have heard the teachers talk about them and how crazy they are - ALL MY LIFE. Some of the EARLIEST conversations I overheard between my parents and their teacher friends and my aunts/cousins/second whatevers (HUGE family, all teachers, nurses and journalists - big reunion at Christmas) were ALL about those "crazy" "idiotic" parental requests that either Joey was soooooo special and needed coddling or Johnny needed higher standards than everyone else for whatever reason. Teachers WILL NOT DO THIS.</p><p></p><p>DO NOT buy into this koi. Just Say NO. This is the kind of soul destroying koolaide that gives therapy a really horrible name. I can GUARANDANGTEE you that if this therapist/whatever has kids they are SOOOOOOOO messed up that it is NOT funny. YOU have a difficult child because she has some real problem, even if it hasn't been diagnosis'd properly and treatment for it is just not easy or effective until they actually have to live with their decisions as adults. This therapist has difficult child kids or messed up kids because she DID THAT TO THEM. IF she has them. </p><p></p><p>If she doesn't have kids? She has NO business even SPEAKING to you about how you should have parented difficult child.</p><p></p><p>Wiz DID have higher standards. Mostly because the lowest IQ score he ever had was 139 and he was BORED and didn't read all the questions. IT is VERY much lower than his other IQ estimates. We enriched his education at home. We enriched it largely by exposing him to every book he could want that wasn't feeding violence and he was reading college level textbooks on many subjects and doing college level work in his 5th gr Special Education class. It was WHY he was in sp ed that year - they were willing to work with him on his level, that level. He KNEW school was important to us. </p><p></p><p>He STILL came close to flunking many classes. He STILL insisted he would never need math and refused to take the classes he needed and was easily able to do the work in. He PAYS for it in college.</p><p></p><p>This person is DELUSIONAL and her advice should be CRIMINAL. in my opinion SHE NEEDS TO GO TO A psychiatric hospital. NOT as a professional but as a delusional patient if she honestly believes that you should have ignored stealing, bullying, etc.... and focused solely on grades in those early years. Also, the school very likely would have taken some really harsh steps if you hadn't worked with them on those issues. Like pressing charges on your child. HOW would that help?</p><p></p><p>I wonder what that professional would say if you asked her HOW it would help your daughter to have good grades but be a convicted thief? If you had not made it CLEAR that stealing was NOT acceptable early, by now she would be out stealing cars and identities and large sums of money and she would have a felony record and then? All those grades???? Would mean bupkus cause you can't get a job with straight A's and a felony conviction. It just doesn't happen that way.</p><p></p><p>I am so sorry you had to listen to that garbage. This woman is nuts and needs some serious help. Just because she says something does NOT mean it is how the world works. What reaction do you think difficult child's early teachers would have had if you had ignored what difficult child was doing and told them that for YOUR precious darling the work should be 100% perfect or she should flunk, and that nothing else mattered? How long before the teachers had YOU committed to a psychiatric hospital for being completely out of touch with reality? That is one of the stupidest things I have EVER heard a therapist say.</p><p></p><p>What is this person's degree/license? Has she suggested ANY books or reading material? I would be really tempted to find her boss and speak to her, or the group that licenses her and let them know that she is completely delusional. </p><p></p><p>Oh I wish I lived closer and could be an "advocate" for you with this HAG. I am SO ANGRY on both your behalf and on difficult child's. There is NO WAY this IDIOT is going to do anything but HURT difficult child by telling her that NOTHING is her fault and if you had just blah blah blah then she would be FINE.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 502167, member: 1233"] OH H***NO! Where is husband's responsibility in this? HOW is this not also HIS FAULT in the doctor's mind? WHY is it only YOUR fault???? WHO gave this IDIOT a degree in anything but underwater basketweaving???? This IDIOT needs to be yanked from being around your child and EVERY other human being. DO NOT GO BACK unless you are ready to rip her to shreds by challenging her every bit of stupidity masquerading as logic. Write a letter to the head of whatever runs this and have a FIT!!!! I have RARELY heard of such incredibly unprofessional behavior. Has this person ever SPOKEN to a kdg or first grade teacher or ANY teacher and tried to tell them to hold a child to higher standards than the other kids? THE TEACHER CANNOT DO THAT. NOTHING you say could have gotten ANY teacher to do that. EVER. PERIOD. I know parents who have tried. I have heard the teachers talk about them and how crazy they are - ALL MY LIFE. Some of the EARLIEST conversations I overheard between my parents and their teacher friends and my aunts/cousins/second whatevers (HUGE family, all teachers, nurses and journalists - big reunion at Christmas) were ALL about those "crazy" "idiotic" parental requests that either Joey was soooooo special and needed coddling or Johnny needed higher standards than everyone else for whatever reason. Teachers WILL NOT DO THIS. DO NOT buy into this koi. Just Say NO. This is the kind of soul destroying koolaide that gives therapy a really horrible name. I can GUARANDANGTEE you that if this therapist/whatever has kids they are SOOOOOOOO messed up that it is NOT funny. YOU have a difficult child because she has some real problem, even if it hasn't been diagnosis'd properly and treatment for it is just not easy or effective until they actually have to live with their decisions as adults. This therapist has difficult child kids or messed up kids because she DID THAT TO THEM. IF she has them. If she doesn't have kids? She has NO business even SPEAKING to you about how you should have parented difficult child. Wiz DID have higher standards. Mostly because the lowest IQ score he ever had was 139 and he was BORED and didn't read all the questions. IT is VERY much lower than his other IQ estimates. We enriched his education at home. We enriched it largely by exposing him to every book he could want that wasn't feeding violence and he was reading college level textbooks on many subjects and doing college level work in his 5th gr Special Education class. It was WHY he was in sp ed that year - they were willing to work with him on his level, that level. He KNEW school was important to us. He STILL came close to flunking many classes. He STILL insisted he would never need math and refused to take the classes he needed and was easily able to do the work in. He PAYS for it in college. This person is DELUSIONAL and her advice should be CRIMINAL. in my opinion SHE NEEDS TO GO TO A psychiatric hospital. NOT as a professional but as a delusional patient if she honestly believes that you should have ignored stealing, bullying, etc.... and focused solely on grades in those early years. Also, the school very likely would have taken some really harsh steps if you hadn't worked with them on those issues. Like pressing charges on your child. HOW would that help? I wonder what that professional would say if you asked her HOW it would help your daughter to have good grades but be a convicted thief? If you had not made it CLEAR that stealing was NOT acceptable early, by now she would be out stealing cars and identities and large sums of money and she would have a felony record and then? All those grades???? Would mean bupkus cause you can't get a job with straight A's and a felony conviction. It just doesn't happen that way. I am so sorry you had to listen to that garbage. This woman is nuts and needs some serious help. Just because she says something does NOT mean it is how the world works. What reaction do you think difficult child's early teachers would have had if you had ignored what difficult child was doing and told them that for YOUR precious darling the work should be 100% perfect or she should flunk, and that nothing else mattered? How long before the teachers had YOU committed to a psychiatric hospital for being completely out of touch with reality? That is one of the stupidest things I have EVER heard a therapist say. What is this person's degree/license? Has she suggested ANY books or reading material? I would be really tempted to find her boss and speak to her, or the group that licenses her and let them know that she is completely delusional. Oh I wish I lived closer and could be an "advocate" for you with this HAG. I am SO ANGRY on both your behalf and on difficult child's. There is NO WAY this IDIOT is going to do anything but HURT difficult child by telling her that NOTHING is her fault and if you had just blah blah blah then she would be FINE. [/QUOTE]
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