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Please Help?? 6 YO Daughter Possible ODD, Borderline (BPD), or ADHD??
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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 460266" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Others have ALL said good things. One thing to try to keep in the front of your brain, esp at the hardest times, is that kids do well when they CAN. I think it is a quote from Explosive Child, but could be wrong. What it means is that a LOT of the things that are problems are thigns she can't change right now, or not with-o a lot of help.</p><p></p><p>A LOT of kids have symptoms show up around ages 2-3. It is a major reason why so many people are so convinced that vaccines cause the problems. Yo DO need to ahve her evaluated fully. Including pediatric neurologist, neuropsychologist, psychiatrist, even a developmental pediatrician if possible. At the very least a neuropsychologist and a psychiatrist (psychiatrist).</p><p></p><p>I also STRONGLY urge you to have her evaluated ASAP by an Occupational Therapist (Occupational Therapist (OT)). Many fo the quirks you describe, the car stuff, being held, etc... just screams sensory integration disorder (Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) - not the sids that causes kids to die, totally different). Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) is when the brain doesn't process input from the senses the right way. It will cause a person to seek out or to avoid various types of sensory stimulation. You can learn more in The Out of Sync Child by kranowitz. in my opinion every kid wtih adhd/odd/other issues should have this assessment. Why? well, it goes along iwth many things and can be on its' own too. It can be helped in MANY fairly easy ways, and one particular therapy for Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) has been show to actually change how the brain handles things. This change happens WITHOUT medication, surgery or other invasive techniques. It is not magic, of course, but brushing therapy, when done properly, can have a HUGE impact on an entire family. Brushing therapy MUST be taught by an Occupational Therapist (OT). Done wrong it can really make a child sick or have worse problems. Done right? WOW. My youngest has Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) and the day of his evaluation when they asked him to cut out a shape drawn on paper he had a really hard time. Said he was an idiot, a loser (NOT things he heard at home by a LONG shot - he could and often did discuss the time-space paradox with us at that age -5yo) The Occupational Therapist (OT) did some very gentle things as he was cutting something else out - gently joint compressions on his head, neck, shoulders. Neither she nor I spoke a single word. Suddenly he wasn't fighting the scissors, was staying on the line, said he was really good at it! He was NOT responding to any real cues from either of us. I was behind him and he could not see me, she was just there and said nothing. If I hadn't seen it I would NEVER have belived it. Most changes are not that sudden, but the various therapies make HUGE improvements over time.</p><p></p><p>Part of the therapy is providing the types of sensory input you child needs - called a sensory diet. Lots of it will seem easy - she will like to do some of the things she needs to do. We had already provided at least 3/4 of the various things thank you needed simply because he wasdrawn to them. But there are other sensory aids that can help that she wouldn't think of. The Occupational Therapist (OT) will help with that. Often our kids can use sensory aids to help when they are very upset or getting that way. </p><p></p><p>Schools have OTs. At least in the US, not sure where you are. The school Occupational Therapist (OT) will do an evaluation, but will only evaluation for how sensory/Occupational Therapist (OT) issues are impacting school. NOT how they impact the rest of her world. Usually insurance covers this. I know medicaid (state kids insurance) does, at least here in OK. The private evaluation is FAR more helpful than the school one, so I urge you to get that as soon as you can. It just makes a difference in a big way. </p><p></p><p>Kranowitz also has a book called The Out of Sync Child Has Fun. It is packed with sensory activities and ways to make them less expensive and more fun. I am on my second or third copy in five years - we wore them out or I loaned a copy to a friend and then made it a gift when it helped a lot. ALL of my kids and their friends like the book - it is just FUN and can help too! </p><p></p><p>As for the wanting to make you mad, that seems quite common in the difficult child's I know. My husband calls it the Wounded Gazelle Syndrome. Any time one of us was even a little under the weather or stressed out, Wiz would do everything it was possible for him to do to make us blow up. Then he was happy for an hour or so and started again. It lasted for years. It wasn't until we were extremely consistent in responding with low affect to him (no emotions showing, good or bad) for a LONG time that it stopped. I got great help with my own anger issues from a book called "She's Gonna Blow: real help for Moms Dealing with anger" or something similar. Author was Julie Barnhill or Julie Ann Barnhill. One of the ways it helped was to get me to pay attention to the changes in my body when I got angry. After some practice I could see them when they happened and then change my thoughts or whatever so that I stopped blowing up (came from a family of yellers so blowing up was what I knew). That made a big change, and it helped. </p><p></p><p>I hope some of what I posted was helpful. Welcome to our family!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 460266, member: 1233"] Others have ALL said good things. One thing to try to keep in the front of your brain, esp at the hardest times, is that kids do well when they CAN. I think it is a quote from Explosive Child, but could be wrong. What it means is that a LOT of the things that are problems are thigns she can't change right now, or not with-o a lot of help. A LOT of kids have symptoms show up around ages 2-3. It is a major reason why so many people are so convinced that vaccines cause the problems. Yo DO need to ahve her evaluated fully. Including pediatric neurologist, neuropsychologist, psychiatrist, even a developmental pediatrician if possible. At the very least a neuropsychologist and a psychiatrist (psychiatrist). I also STRONGLY urge you to have her evaluated ASAP by an Occupational Therapist (Occupational Therapist (OT)). Many fo the quirks you describe, the car stuff, being held, etc... just screams sensory integration disorder (Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) - not the sids that causes kids to die, totally different). Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) is when the brain doesn't process input from the senses the right way. It will cause a person to seek out or to avoid various types of sensory stimulation. You can learn more in The Out of Sync Child by kranowitz. in my opinion every kid wtih adhd/odd/other issues should have this assessment. Why? well, it goes along iwth many things and can be on its' own too. It can be helped in MANY fairly easy ways, and one particular therapy for Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) has been show to actually change how the brain handles things. This change happens WITHOUT medication, surgery or other invasive techniques. It is not magic, of course, but brushing therapy, when done properly, can have a HUGE impact on an entire family. Brushing therapy MUST be taught by an Occupational Therapist (OT). Done wrong it can really make a child sick or have worse problems. Done right? WOW. My youngest has Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) and the day of his evaluation when they asked him to cut out a shape drawn on paper he had a really hard time. Said he was an idiot, a loser (NOT things he heard at home by a LONG shot - he could and often did discuss the time-space paradox with us at that age -5yo) The Occupational Therapist (OT) did some very gentle things as he was cutting something else out - gently joint compressions on his head, neck, shoulders. Neither she nor I spoke a single word. Suddenly he wasn't fighting the scissors, was staying on the line, said he was really good at it! He was NOT responding to any real cues from either of us. I was behind him and he could not see me, she was just there and said nothing. If I hadn't seen it I would NEVER have belived it. Most changes are not that sudden, but the various therapies make HUGE improvements over time. Part of the therapy is providing the types of sensory input you child needs - called a sensory diet. Lots of it will seem easy - she will like to do some of the things she needs to do. We had already provided at least 3/4 of the various things thank you needed simply because he wasdrawn to them. But there are other sensory aids that can help that she wouldn't think of. The Occupational Therapist (OT) will help with that. Often our kids can use sensory aids to help when they are very upset or getting that way. Schools have OTs. At least in the US, not sure where you are. The school Occupational Therapist (OT) will do an evaluation, but will only evaluation for how sensory/Occupational Therapist (OT) issues are impacting school. NOT how they impact the rest of her world. Usually insurance covers this. I know medicaid (state kids insurance) does, at least here in OK. The private evaluation is FAR more helpful than the school one, so I urge you to get that as soon as you can. It just makes a difference in a big way. Kranowitz also has a book called The Out of Sync Child Has Fun. It is packed with sensory activities and ways to make them less expensive and more fun. I am on my second or third copy in five years - we wore them out or I loaned a copy to a friend and then made it a gift when it helped a lot. ALL of my kids and their friends like the book - it is just FUN and can help too! As for the wanting to make you mad, that seems quite common in the difficult child's I know. My husband calls it the Wounded Gazelle Syndrome. Any time one of us was even a little under the weather or stressed out, Wiz would do everything it was possible for him to do to make us blow up. Then he was happy for an hour or so and started again. It lasted for years. It wasn't until we were extremely consistent in responding with low affect to him (no emotions showing, good or bad) for a LONG time that it stopped. I got great help with my own anger issues from a book called "She's Gonna Blow: real help for Moms Dealing with anger" or something similar. Author was Julie Barnhill or Julie Ann Barnhill. One of the ways it helped was to get me to pay attention to the changes in my body when I got angry. After some practice I could see them when they happened and then change my thoughts or whatever so that I stopped blowing up (came from a family of yellers so blowing up was what I knew). That made a big change, and it helped. I hope some of what I posted was helpful. Welcome to our family! [/QUOTE]
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