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<blockquote data-quote="hearts and roses" data-source="post: 109318" data-attributes="member: 2211"><p>First: They are abusing him. Popping a 4 year in the mouth for any reason (or at any age really) is not OKAY. And neither is using a belt on him - what could a 4 year possibly do to deserve a belt or a pop in the mouth? I mean, even a difficult child, at the most, should get a little swat on the rear end and only if he puts himself or others in danger, or heaven forbid, a parent loses his/her temper! CALL CPS AND REPORT THEM AGAIN!! KEEP REPORTING THEM!</p><p></p><p>Second: If you don't want your grandson to lie and the only way they will allow him to stay over is if you don't put on the pull ups, go buy those nice little softly coated bed liners and slip it under the sheet without grandson knowing. Don't even discuss his father/girlfriend's demands. Simply tell him that you were noticing that his pullups are always dry so you thought you'd try him going without..."you're such a big boy now, you're doing so well, yadda yadda yadda" Do not discuss his father's/girlfriend's unfair and inhumane demands - just handle it on your own. Go buy an extra couple of pairs of jammies for him just in case and if he does mess, don't make it an issue and God Forbid - don't tell the girlfriend! </p><p></p><p>Third: A question...what if he is removed from their home? Are you willing and able to take in grandson and would you? Just curious. Because if you are willing and able, then I'd say fight for him, the poor thing. If you're not, then you can only make an impact in the time that he spends with you. I'd be sure to love him up and make sure he eats well, gets plenty of attention, read to, a good nights sleep, bathed, etc. Check for marks on his body! </p><p></p><p>Hugs - I'd be dying inside every time I dropped him back home.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hearts and roses, post: 109318, member: 2211"] First: They are abusing him. Popping a 4 year in the mouth for any reason (or at any age really) is not OKAY. And neither is using a belt on him - what could a 4 year possibly do to deserve a belt or a pop in the mouth? I mean, even a difficult child, at the most, should get a little swat on the rear end and only if he puts himself or others in danger, or heaven forbid, a parent loses his/her temper! CALL CPS AND REPORT THEM AGAIN!! KEEP REPORTING THEM! Second: If you don't want your grandson to lie and the only way they will allow him to stay over is if you don't put on the pull ups, go buy those nice little softly coated bed liners and slip it under the sheet without grandson knowing. Don't even discuss his father/girlfriend's demands. Simply tell him that you were noticing that his pullups are always dry so you thought you'd try him going without..."you're such a big boy now, you're doing so well, yadda yadda yadda" Do not discuss his father's/girlfriend's unfair and inhumane demands - just handle it on your own. Go buy an extra couple of pairs of jammies for him just in case and if he does mess, don't make it an issue and God Forbid - don't tell the girlfriend! Third: A question...what if he is removed from their home? Are you willing and able to take in grandson and would you? Just curious. Because if you are willing and able, then I'd say fight for him, the poor thing. If you're not, then you can only make an impact in the time that he spends with you. I'd be sure to love him up and make sure he eats well, gets plenty of attention, read to, a good nights sleep, bathed, etc. Check for marks on his body! Hugs - I'd be dying inside every time I dropped him back home. [/QUOTE]
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