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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 235586" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Macalania,</p><p></p><p>I am sorry Rotsne is hijacking your thread about how to get help for your child and turning it into a political "my country is better than yours" rant. </p><p></p><p>I want to mention one problem my brother encountered when he decided to get clean and sober. He really thought he drank and smoked some pot now and then, but that alcohol was his main drug of choice.</p><p></p><p>In reality, I was at many parties with my brother before I married. I saw how much he drank, and I also saw him take MANY MANY drugs. Far more than "just pot". </p><p></p><p>What happened was that he would drink so much he blacked out. He was still walking and talking and sort of making sense, definitely partying, but he had no memory of what happened. Being a light drinker most of the time, I witnessed so much scary behavior. Of course, any time I told my parents, they asked him and he said all he did was drink and I was exaggerating. And they believed him and ignored me or chastised me.</p><p></p><p>I saw my brother take LSD, mushrooms, cocaine, all sorts of pills (some stolen from me that were prescribed for my arthritis and fibromyalgia), and quite a number of substances I cannot even identify. The only thing I ever saw him say no to was shooting up drugs - he is terrified of needles and refused to even try anything that was used through a needle.</p><p></p><p>Even when my brother went into rehab and my mom was talking to me about it she did NOT believe me when I told her that my brother had used all of those substances. He said he did not. And she asked where I would even have seen him at a party. I explained he came to many of the parties thrown by my coworkers at a certain restaurant. I actually had to contact a friend and have her call my mom to tell her that I was not lying or making things up to get my bro into trouble.</p><p></p><p>I wanted him to have the best shot at getting clean and sober and STAYING that way that he could get. If you don't come clean about the things you have taken, you sabotage your chances of staying straight.</p><p></p><p>Ironically, my brother believed me. HE trusted that I was not just trying to "get him into trouble" or mess him up some way. he remembered being at some of the parties. But he never remembered leaving. And actually HE is the reason the restaurant stopped having the Christmas party at the restaurant. They rent a hall now because my brother was riding some of the equipment and not only messed up one piece but he could have lost his leg climbing all over another. No one in the history of this restaurant had ever done that - and the manager and owners realized what an insurance risk that was. As well as the fact that they would not have been able to make their main menu item with-o the one piece of equipment.</p><p></p><p>He was messed up, but is now clean and sober. And has been that way for over 7 years!!! But he still reads his AA books, and still goes to meetings several times a week.</p><p></p><p>As for rehabs, I will PM the name of a very reputable one that I know. </p><p></p><p>I hope you can either get your husband on your side to help your son, or get help for your son with-o your husband's support. Either way, I pray for the best for your son and your family.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 235586, member: 1233"] Macalania, I am sorry Rotsne is hijacking your thread about how to get help for your child and turning it into a political "my country is better than yours" rant. I want to mention one problem my brother encountered when he decided to get clean and sober. He really thought he drank and smoked some pot now and then, but that alcohol was his main drug of choice. In reality, I was at many parties with my brother before I married. I saw how much he drank, and I also saw him take MANY MANY drugs. Far more than "just pot". What happened was that he would drink so much he blacked out. He was still walking and talking and sort of making sense, definitely partying, but he had no memory of what happened. Being a light drinker most of the time, I witnessed so much scary behavior. Of course, any time I told my parents, they asked him and he said all he did was drink and I was exaggerating. And they believed him and ignored me or chastised me. I saw my brother take LSD, mushrooms, cocaine, all sorts of pills (some stolen from me that were prescribed for my arthritis and fibromyalgia), and quite a number of substances I cannot even identify. The only thing I ever saw him say no to was shooting up drugs - he is terrified of needles and refused to even try anything that was used through a needle. Even when my brother went into rehab and my mom was talking to me about it she did NOT believe me when I told her that my brother had used all of those substances. He said he did not. And she asked where I would even have seen him at a party. I explained he came to many of the parties thrown by my coworkers at a certain restaurant. I actually had to contact a friend and have her call my mom to tell her that I was not lying or making things up to get my bro into trouble. I wanted him to have the best shot at getting clean and sober and STAYING that way that he could get. If you don't come clean about the things you have taken, you sabotage your chances of staying straight. Ironically, my brother believed me. HE trusted that I was not just trying to "get him into trouble" or mess him up some way. he remembered being at some of the parties. But he never remembered leaving. And actually HE is the reason the restaurant stopped having the Christmas party at the restaurant. They rent a hall now because my brother was riding some of the equipment and not only messed up one piece but he could have lost his leg climbing all over another. No one in the history of this restaurant had ever done that - and the manager and owners realized what an insurance risk that was. As well as the fact that they would not have been able to make their main menu item with-o the one piece of equipment. He was messed up, but is now clean and sober. And has been that way for over 7 years!!! But he still reads his AA books, and still goes to meetings several times a week. As for rehabs, I will PM the name of a very reputable one that I know. I hope you can either get your husband on your side to help your son, or get help for your son with-o your husband's support. Either way, I pray for the best for your son and your family. [/QUOTE]
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