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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 27463" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>The "poor white trash" concept - it should have been thrown out years ago, with slavery. It was an issue of poverty and lack of health care, more than anything else. It certainly should not be anywhere in people's minds today. Unfortunately, it is.</p><p></p><p>Marital status - even more of a furfy, in my opinion (that means it's bogus). At least half of first marriages end in divorce. Even more second ones do likewise. Just where so they get off making such judgements? It really makes me angry, especially when such judgements are made from an allegedly religious point of view.</p><p></p><p>To help defend you, arm yourself with the Scriptures. I refer to New testament here, sorry for those whose persecutors don't refer to it. </p><p>First point: whenever anyone is using scripture against you, read it for yourself but also read what comes before, and after. Know the context. More often than not, it gets quoted out of context.</p><p>The most commonly quoted scripture justifying people judging others - </p><p>Matthew Ch 18 verse 15 (and following ones).</p><p>It's misquoted as justification for "admonishing" others whose lifestyle is less than desirable, in the eyes of the person making the judgement. But if you read it carefully, it's actually saying the opposite - "If your brother sins AGAINST YOU [my emphasis], go to him privately and confront him with his fault. If he listens and confesses it, you have won back a brother. But if not, then take one or two others with you and go back to him again, proving everything you say by these witnesses. If he still refuses, take your case to the church..." and so on.</p><p>The point of this is giving us the right to deal ONLY with sins AGAINST US, not general grievances of perceived immorality. And THEN, it must be dealt with personally, not with a deputation until you have tried to resolve things at a personal level.</p><p></p><p>Very few people have the courage to first attempt a resolution of a personal matter on a one to one basis, before all other options. Yes this is what is instructed.</p><p></p><p>As for making judgements on moral issues, as a group - NOWHERE is such sanction given in the Scriptures. Nowhere. And yet I have heard that very scripture quoted as justification for snubbing a woman who was involved with a man who was married but separated. An entire group of upright citizens cast this woman out of the church, at a time when frankly she should have been surrounded by people who cared for her spiritual and emotional welfare. (no, it wasn't me - just a very close friend).</p><p></p><p>People with imperfect lives (and frankly, isn't that all of us?) should have doors opened for them, not slammed shut in their faces. And to use religious law as justification, when it actually says otherwise - is reprehensible and goes against he very spirit of the religious law being misquoted.</p><p></p><p>I have also been judged - by what I was wearing, mostly, or because my children are less than perfect. It is similarly discomforting to be put on a pedestal. The best way to cope is to try to hang on to a balanced perspective of who and what you are, to be a good person following what YOU know to be right. Never take this sort of rubbish on board personally - you don't have to own it if it is not you. Live your life as if you have the respect of the world. because in your own heart, that is what you should have. Teach your children the same attitude to life and they will not be set back by any people who think they know better.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 27463, member: 1991"] The "poor white trash" concept - it should have been thrown out years ago, with slavery. It was an issue of poverty and lack of health care, more than anything else. It certainly should not be anywhere in people's minds today. Unfortunately, it is. Marital status - even more of a furfy, in my opinion (that means it's bogus). At least half of first marriages end in divorce. Even more second ones do likewise. Just where so they get off making such judgements? It really makes me angry, especially when such judgements are made from an allegedly religious point of view. To help defend you, arm yourself with the Scriptures. I refer to New testament here, sorry for those whose persecutors don't refer to it. First point: whenever anyone is using scripture against you, read it for yourself but also read what comes before, and after. Know the context. More often than not, it gets quoted out of context. The most commonly quoted scripture justifying people judging others - Matthew Ch 18 verse 15 (and following ones). It's misquoted as justification for "admonishing" others whose lifestyle is less than desirable, in the eyes of the person making the judgement. But if you read it carefully, it's actually saying the opposite - "If your brother sins AGAINST YOU [my emphasis], go to him privately and confront him with his fault. If he listens and confesses it, you have won back a brother. But if not, then take one or two others with you and go back to him again, proving everything you say by these witnesses. If he still refuses, take your case to the church..." and so on. The point of this is giving us the right to deal ONLY with sins AGAINST US, not general grievances of perceived immorality. And THEN, it must be dealt with personally, not with a deputation until you have tried to resolve things at a personal level. Very few people have the courage to first attempt a resolution of a personal matter on a one to one basis, before all other options. Yes this is what is instructed. As for making judgements on moral issues, as a group - NOWHERE is such sanction given in the Scriptures. Nowhere. And yet I have heard that very scripture quoted as justification for snubbing a woman who was involved with a man who was married but separated. An entire group of upright citizens cast this woman out of the church, at a time when frankly she should have been surrounded by people who cared for her spiritual and emotional welfare. (no, it wasn't me - just a very close friend). People with imperfect lives (and frankly, isn't that all of us?) should have doors opened for them, not slammed shut in their faces. And to use religious law as justification, when it actually says otherwise - is reprehensible and goes against he very spirit of the religious law being misquoted. I have also been judged - by what I was wearing, mostly, or because my children are less than perfect. It is similarly discomforting to be put on a pedestal. The best way to cope is to try to hang on to a balanced perspective of who and what you are, to be a good person following what YOU know to be right. Never take this sort of rubbish on board personally - you don't have to own it if it is not you. Live your life as if you have the respect of the world. because in your own heart, that is what you should have. Teach your children the same attitude to life and they will not be set back by any people who think they know better. Marg [/QUOTE]
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