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<blockquote data-quote="helpme" data-source="post: 355868" data-attributes="member: 8202"><p>TerryJ2-yea, but to teach a younger child to detach? how does that work?</p><p></p><p>Dammit Janet-From the stories I've heard...three boys total...my difficult child and 2 others</p><p>whom were minors, were charged. difficult child calls the charge "sexual violence". I talked</p><p>with boy A's father, who said Boy A's brother had "gone out" with the girl for a few</p><p>years when both were minors. Father said the girl was trash, and talked very</p><p>derogatory about the girl. Father also knew the girl's father and mother and they</p><p>were all "friends". The girl's father is a preacher. He said the girl was lying about it</p><p>all. Father did not help "defend" his son Boy A in any of his criminal matters. Boy A</p><p>already had three or 4 felonies he pled to and after these charges for the gang rape,</p><p>Boy A got into a lot more trouble when he stole and then tried to resell to a young</p><p>child some ipods and stuff. Boy A pulled a knife on the boy and some adults, ran,</p><p>and the whole ordeal hit the front page of all newspapers around. He is serving</p><p>time.</p><p></p><p>No clue at all about Boy B. Boy A said Boy B was not there. But Boy A does not</p><p>usually go anywhere alone. difficult child reports there were even more people there than</p><p>the 3 charged. difficult child said when charged that he didn't even know this girl. But</p><p>later I found out that he did, they were both in the same classes at their alternative</p><p>school.</p><p></p><p>Boy A's story is that they were drugging after school on a bike trail/school/state property.</p><p>Boy A said nothing at all happened with the girl. </p><p></p><p>I stopped by the courthouse yesterday after STBX stated that the new lawyer he found</p><p>for difficult child stated the charges were only INTENT sexually assault and batter. My lawyer</p><p>stated that it is very very odd to see our county press charges for both in one charge.</p><p>usually it is assault OR battery. I can't specifically see Boy A and Boy B's juvenille records.</p><p>But difficult child's stated vaginal penetration with the penis. I asked if supplemental discovery</p><p>had been provided to the defense. The courthouse stated that the discovery was</p><p>checked out by someone (I guess the new lawyer, who is not listed yet-maybe the full</p><p>retainer has not been paid yet). I asked if citizens were allowed to know if a rape kit</p><p>was used. They told me that they would be unable to provide that information because</p><p>they don't read the files (grr...how hard would it be to show that to people researching</p><p>cases?).</p><p></p><p>I asked STBX if he had been notified or requested for DNA to match. I didn't know that</p><p>he'd been unable to have difficult child not entered into the um...forget its name..maybe DNA</p><p>registry?, on the felony counts. On the domestic battery since difficult child was a juvenile, STBX</p><p>motioned the court not to have him entered. Since he is now a felon-ist (STBX's wording),</p><p>he is entered into the database. I don't anything about it all, and was wondering if </p><p>anyone here had any experience with this/these issues.</p><p></p><p>I just keep coming back to the fact that it just isn't right for these cases to take so long,</p><p>or for the public not to be notified. And I am detached from difficult child, but no one can force</p><p>anyone to detach (our daughters). STBX insists difficult child didn't do anything wrong, not to his</p><p>sisters or to this girl. But rumors are that difficult child is drugging girls in the clubs (manager</p><p>of club also talked with me by phone and said difficult child acts like he is on drugs and they</p><p>have him on tape acting irrationally).</p><p></p><p>I think deep down I already know it all in my heart, and if it was just difficult child, i'd let dear</p><p>daddy continue with the problem. Because even if he isn't convicted, what did happen?</p><p>What is happening? I just feel like we (with the OP) have a legal right to know the </p><p>discovery. And anyone else involved with issues like this. Shouldn't people have a </p><p>right to know?</p><p></p><p>But the girls... what does anyone do?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="helpme, post: 355868, member: 8202"] TerryJ2-yea, but to teach a younger child to detach? how does that work? Dammit Janet-From the stories I've heard...three boys total...my difficult child and 2 others whom were minors, were charged. difficult child calls the charge "sexual violence". I talked with boy A's father, who said Boy A's brother had "gone out" with the girl for a few years when both were minors. Father said the girl was trash, and talked very derogatory about the girl. Father also knew the girl's father and mother and they were all "friends". The girl's father is a preacher. He said the girl was lying about it all. Father did not help "defend" his son Boy A in any of his criminal matters. Boy A already had three or 4 felonies he pled to and after these charges for the gang rape, Boy A got into a lot more trouble when he stole and then tried to resell to a young child some ipods and stuff. Boy A pulled a knife on the boy and some adults, ran, and the whole ordeal hit the front page of all newspapers around. He is serving time. No clue at all about Boy B. Boy A said Boy B was not there. But Boy A does not usually go anywhere alone. difficult child reports there were even more people there than the 3 charged. difficult child said when charged that he didn't even know this girl. But later I found out that he did, they were both in the same classes at their alternative school. Boy A's story is that they were drugging after school on a bike trail/school/state property. Boy A said nothing at all happened with the girl. I stopped by the courthouse yesterday after STBX stated that the new lawyer he found for difficult child stated the charges were only INTENT sexually assault and batter. My lawyer stated that it is very very odd to see our county press charges for both in one charge. usually it is assault OR battery. I can't specifically see Boy A and Boy B's juvenille records. But difficult child's stated vaginal penetration with the penis. I asked if supplemental discovery had been provided to the defense. The courthouse stated that the discovery was checked out by someone (I guess the new lawyer, who is not listed yet-maybe the full retainer has not been paid yet). I asked if citizens were allowed to know if a rape kit was used. They told me that they would be unable to provide that information because they don't read the files (grr...how hard would it be to show that to people researching cases?). I asked STBX if he had been notified or requested for DNA to match. I didn't know that he'd been unable to have difficult child not entered into the um...forget its name..maybe DNA registry?, on the felony counts. On the domestic battery since difficult child was a juvenile, STBX motioned the court not to have him entered. Since he is now a felon-ist (STBX's wording), he is entered into the database. I don't anything about it all, and was wondering if anyone here had any experience with this/these issues. I just keep coming back to the fact that it just isn't right for these cases to take so long, or for the public not to be notified. And I am detached from difficult child, but no one can force anyone to detach (our daughters). STBX insists difficult child didn't do anything wrong, not to his sisters or to this girl. But rumors are that difficult child is drugging girls in the clubs (manager of club also talked with me by phone and said difficult child acts like he is on drugs and they have him on tape acting irrationally). I think deep down I already know it all in my heart, and if it was just difficult child, i'd let dear daddy continue with the problem. Because even if he isn't convicted, what did happen? What is happening? I just feel like we (with the OP) have a legal right to know the discovery. And anyone else involved with issues like this. Shouldn't people have a right to know? But the girls... what does anyone do? [/QUOTE]
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