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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 128523" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I don't see home-schooling as 'punishing' your daughter.</p><p></p><p>As I see it - yes, it's highly likely the principal reacted too hastily and has painted himself into a corner; to back down now would be to not only lose face but also water down his publicly made commitment to stamp out cyber-bullying.</p><p></p><p>Is there ANY chance the girls edited their online records before wither of you mothers got to them? Because where you need to go now, will need you to be 110% certain you are right.</p><p></p><p>Now, to cyber-bullying - two girls talking privately in accord does not constitute bullying. Doesn't matter what they were talking abut - they could be talking about the downfall of civilisation as we know it, but as long as it's just talk, and not communicated to anyone else, it is NOT bullying in any form.</p><p></p><p>BUT - if they communicated to a third party (especially target) or expressed intent to each other to communicate in this way, then it COULD constitute either bullying or incitement to bully.</p><p></p><p>And another BUT - where did the principal get this 'transcript'? Because it seems that it is NOT actually a true transcript, but something doctored, to get these girls into trouble. THIS is cyber-bullying - using the 'Net to damage someone else. And now the principal is complicit in enabling the bully to not only achieve his/her aims, but to get away with it.</p><p></p><p>In the interests of justice being served, this needs to be properly examined. If the girls HAVE been naughty and also dishonest about it, that should come out. But if a third party has made all this up, that also needs to be checked out and the perpetrator caught.</p><p></p><p>There are so many possibilities, but whatever the situation, it needs to be checked out properly. Truth is important to uncover.</p><p></p><p>If the principal is not interested in uncovering t he truth (but more interested in scapegoating) then you need to protect the girls from injustice and also ensure that as much unbiased and unadulterated evidence is gathered.</p><p></p><p>You need - the girls' transcripts. The transcript the principal has. Some indication of how the principal came by that transcript. An opinion on the legality (or otherwise) of what he is doing - Cathy is right, you need to really be sure of where you stand legally in this.</p><p></p><p>The girls' names need to be cleared, if they are truly innocent of wrongdoing.</p><p></p><p>I do wonder - a straight A student, why would she make this sort of trouble for herself? But then again, who would benefit from her suspension/expulsion? And this girl she and her friend were gossiping abut - why was this? What are the personalities involved in this, and what is going on to cause this dissent in the ranks?</p><p></p><p>Sounds to me like the girls have at least been guilty of sniping abut another girl behind her back (hey, it's what teen girls do) but this could have been with good reason, or it could have simply been casual vindictiveness which has now come back to bite them.</p><p></p><p>This really does sound to me like major over-reaction without the benefit of considered decisions. The principal is, frankly, being a bully (behind the smokescreen of stamping out bullying) because he is not listening to any voice of reason.</p><p></p><p>And now to schooling - while this is going on, I gather the principal is banning these girls from coming to school? While you might try to force his hand by bringing them to school, the possible result is that he will insist they stay suspended until this has been investigated. In which case - why should either girl be penalised ACADEMICALLY for any of this? </p><p>I would be gathering lesson material, talking to teachers and asking for worksheets (or at least, topics) so that if/while they are at home, they can maintain that A average (or even perhaps gain extra ground?) Then if they MUST stay home, they will not be idle.</p><p></p><p>Success is the best revenge.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 128523, member: 1991"] I don't see home-schooling as 'punishing' your daughter. As I see it - yes, it's highly likely the principal reacted too hastily and has painted himself into a corner; to back down now would be to not only lose face but also water down his publicly made commitment to stamp out cyber-bullying. Is there ANY chance the girls edited their online records before wither of you mothers got to them? Because where you need to go now, will need you to be 110% certain you are right. Now, to cyber-bullying - two girls talking privately in accord does not constitute bullying. Doesn't matter what they were talking abut - they could be talking about the downfall of civilisation as we know it, but as long as it's just talk, and not communicated to anyone else, it is NOT bullying in any form. BUT - if they communicated to a third party (especially target) or expressed intent to each other to communicate in this way, then it COULD constitute either bullying or incitement to bully. And another BUT - where did the principal get this 'transcript'? Because it seems that it is NOT actually a true transcript, but something doctored, to get these girls into trouble. THIS is cyber-bullying - using the 'Net to damage someone else. And now the principal is complicit in enabling the bully to not only achieve his/her aims, but to get away with it. In the interests of justice being served, this needs to be properly examined. If the girls HAVE been naughty and also dishonest about it, that should come out. But if a third party has made all this up, that also needs to be checked out and the perpetrator caught. There are so many possibilities, but whatever the situation, it needs to be checked out properly. Truth is important to uncover. If the principal is not interested in uncovering t he truth (but more interested in scapegoating) then you need to protect the girls from injustice and also ensure that as much unbiased and unadulterated evidence is gathered. You need - the girls' transcripts. The transcript the principal has. Some indication of how the principal came by that transcript. An opinion on the legality (or otherwise) of what he is doing - Cathy is right, you need to really be sure of where you stand legally in this. The girls' names need to be cleared, if they are truly innocent of wrongdoing. I do wonder - a straight A student, why would she make this sort of trouble for herself? But then again, who would benefit from her suspension/expulsion? And this girl she and her friend were gossiping abut - why was this? What are the personalities involved in this, and what is going on to cause this dissent in the ranks? Sounds to me like the girls have at least been guilty of sniping abut another girl behind her back (hey, it's what teen girls do) but this could have been with good reason, or it could have simply been casual vindictiveness which has now come back to bite them. This really does sound to me like major over-reaction without the benefit of considered decisions. The principal is, frankly, being a bully (behind the smokescreen of stamping out bullying) because he is not listening to any voice of reason. And now to schooling - while this is going on, I gather the principal is banning these girls from coming to school? While you might try to force his hand by bringing them to school, the possible result is that he will insist they stay suspended until this has been investigated. In which case - why should either girl be penalised ACADEMICALLY for any of this? I would be gathering lesson material, talking to teachers and asking for worksheets (or at least, topics) so that if/while they are at home, they can maintain that A average (or even perhaps gain extra ground?) Then if they MUST stay home, they will not be idle. Success is the best revenge. Marg [/QUOTE]
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