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<blockquote data-quote="Calamity Jane" data-source="post: 515741" data-attributes="member: 13882"><p>Hi Vligrl,</p><p></p><p>For what it's worth, my son never smelled of pot, came home on time, and told us he was doing his schoolwork. Once we caught paraphernalia in the car, he never drove our car again, and he also had no problems getting rides. He was always adamant about "his rights" and "his freedom," and was very vocal about how pot should be legalized (wonder why?!). The main problem we saw was extremely poor grades, lack of motivation, and the fact that he was almost never home after school or for dinner, he quit his long-time part-time job, he was no longer interested in family activities, seeing relatives, etc. He was always skulking around with his friends because they weren't allowed in our house after we caught them in our basement smoking pot. His room was a pigsty and he always had an excuse. We didn't give him money, but he was always able to find some fool to smoke with so he thought he was really "sticking it to us." <em><strong>He mistook our patience and mercy for stupidity</strong></em>. From what our therapist told us 2 yrs. ago, 100-150ng/ml indicates moderate use, and 500-700+ indicates heavy use (problem. smoking more than once/day). Our son came in around the 150 range whenever we tested him. If you do test, do it first thing in the AM, before he has a chance to eat or drink, and he must do it in front of your husband, so there's no way he'll dilute it or add soap to it to ruin the test and have you waste your money. If you're not comfortable with that, take him to the dr.'s office. If you've already found paraphernalia, you can be somewhat sure he's smoking. So what you need to ask yourself is, if he does turn up positive, what are you and husband going to do? Your son doesn't drive, he doesn't get money I assume, so other than "just knowing" what do you gain? What consequence can he receive? on the other hand, if he's lazy and unmotivated, it could be related to that, and I'd want to know exactly what's going on, just for my own satisfaction. Just decide what the consequence will be beforehand, and stick to it. This might be a good week if everyone's home from school.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Calamity Jane, post: 515741, member: 13882"] Hi Vligrl, For what it's worth, my son never smelled of pot, came home on time, and told us he was doing his schoolwork. Once we caught paraphernalia in the car, he never drove our car again, and he also had no problems getting rides. He was always adamant about "his rights" and "his freedom," and was very vocal about how pot should be legalized (wonder why?!). The main problem we saw was extremely poor grades, lack of motivation, and the fact that he was almost never home after school or for dinner, he quit his long-time part-time job, he was no longer interested in family activities, seeing relatives, etc. He was always skulking around with his friends because they weren't allowed in our house after we caught them in our basement smoking pot. His room was a pigsty and he always had an excuse. We didn't give him money, but he was always able to find some fool to smoke with so he thought he was really "sticking it to us." [I][B]He mistook our patience and mercy for stupidity[/B][/I]. From what our therapist told us 2 yrs. ago, 100-150ng/ml indicates moderate use, and 500-700+ indicates heavy use (problem. smoking more than once/day). Our son came in around the 150 range whenever we tested him. If you do test, do it first thing in the AM, before he has a chance to eat or drink, and he must do it in front of your husband, so there's no way he'll dilute it or add soap to it to ruin the test and have you waste your money. If you're not comfortable with that, take him to the dr.'s office. If you've already found paraphernalia, you can be somewhat sure he's smoking. So what you need to ask yourself is, if he does turn up positive, what are you and husband going to do? Your son doesn't drive, he doesn't get money I assume, so other than "just knowing" what do you gain? What consequence can he receive? on the other hand, if he's lazy and unmotivated, it could be related to that, and I'd want to know exactly what's going on, just for my own satisfaction. Just decide what the consequence will be beforehand, and stick to it. This might be a good week if everyone's home from school. [/QUOTE]
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