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<blockquote data-quote="DazedandConfused" data-source="post: 187704" data-attributes="member: 831"><p>Donna, </p><p> </p><p>That lip-synching thing had me boiling! Then, the chinese press "quotes" her saying she was "just proud to have her voice used". Riiiiight. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sick.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":sick:" title="sick :sick:" data-shortname=":sick:" /></p><p> </p><p>I didn't have a problem with the new scoring system. Once I understood it, it made sense. And, I also don't have the problem with the tie breaker. There was a very similiar tie-breaking situation with Nancy Kerrigan and Oksana Bieul (sp?) back in 92' in figure skaking. Oksana got the gold because she scored 1/10th higher in the artistic portion of judging. Otherwise, they were tied. Of course, that scoring system has been tossed too. </p><p> </p><p>What I do have a problem with is:</p><p> </p><p>1. The judging. The Chinese not being properly deducted points when errors were made. However, it wasn't just the chinese that benefitted from that incompetence. Interestingly, the commentors explained that when a country has an competitor, no judge can be from that country. So, you have judges whose countries have never had a top gymnast. As a result, they don't have the depth of experience to judge these competitors. So, they screw up, a lot. </p><p> </p><p>2. People not getting (though, not here) that a 13, or 14 year old has a distinct advantage over an 18 year old due to flexibility and less history of injuries. As a gymnast grows taller, their center of gravity is higher. That makes those moves just that much harder. </p><p> </p><p>Isn't it interesting that these girls seemed to suddenly come out of nowhere right before the olympics. Had they been competing all along, fudging their ages would have been extremely difficult. They (chinese government) obviously planned this carefully. Generally, gymnasts come up through the ranks and are well known by the time they get to the senior level. </p><p> </p><p>I feel badly for the chinese gymnasts. They are pawns to project a particular image for the chinese government. Being removed from your home at the age of 3 or 4 and sent to live at a state run gymnastics facility must be really difficult. The hope of elevating their families living conditions must put a lot of pressure of them keep up this scheme. Shame on the adults.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DazedandConfused, post: 187704, member: 831"] Donna, That lip-synching thing had me boiling! Then, the chinese press "quotes" her saying she was "just proud to have her voice used". Riiiiight. :sick: I didn't have a problem with the new scoring system. Once I understood it, it made sense. And, I also don't have the problem with the tie breaker. There was a very similiar tie-breaking situation with Nancy Kerrigan and Oksana Bieul (sp?) back in 92' in figure skaking. Oksana got the gold because she scored 1/10th higher in the artistic portion of judging. Otherwise, they were tied. Of course, that scoring system has been tossed too. What I do have a problem with is: 1. The judging. The Chinese not being properly deducted points when errors were made. However, it wasn't just the chinese that benefitted from that incompetence. Interestingly, the commentors explained that when a country has an competitor, no judge can be from that country. So, you have judges whose countries have never had a top gymnast. As a result, they don't have the depth of experience to judge these competitors. So, they screw up, a lot. 2. People not getting (though, not here) that a 13, or 14 year old has a distinct advantage over an 18 year old due to flexibility and less history of injuries. As a gymnast grows taller, their center of gravity is higher. That makes those moves just that much harder. Isn't it interesting that these girls seemed to suddenly come out of nowhere right before the olympics. Had they been competing all along, fudging their ages would have been extremely difficult. They (chinese government) obviously planned this carefully. Generally, gymnasts come up through the ranks and are well known by the time they get to the senior level. I feel badly for the chinese gymnasts. They are pawns to project a particular image for the chinese government. Being removed from your home at the age of 3 or 4 and sent to live at a state run gymnastics facility must be really difficult. The hope of elevating their families living conditions must put a lot of pressure of them keep up this scheme. Shame on the adults. [/QUOTE]
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