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Sorry.....dont know if I am allowed to post religious thread?
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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 529207" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Helpangel, that analogy abut the shepherd's rod and staff was something shared with us in church last Sunday. The crook is used to rescue sheep from tricky situations and the rod used to guide the sheep, as well as defend them from predators. it is not used to punish the sheep. You are spot on.</p><p></p><p>Step, you said </p><p></p><p></p><p>Not quite. The lady who took her daughter off medications, did so because someone else imposed their views on her. They then used emotional blackmail on her to get her to comply, and to also get her to close her mind to all medical possibilities.</p><p></p><p>Which of us has not been where this woman is? How many of us, if told that we had to do X, Y or Z to help our children, have not at least considered it? I'm not talking necessarily about any sort of mumbo jumbo, I'm also talking here about the times that health professionals have told us to do something even where our instincts told us it was wrong. This is not much different; we do what the doctor wants because otherwise, the doctor might refuse to continue treatment. And we do what religious leaders tell us to do, because our social and spiritual acceptance by others depends on it.</p><p></p><p>The sad thing is - if God really did heal through this "faith healer" then the healing would be form God, not from the faith healer. And God uses whatever tools come to hand, as so many of you have indicated. But too often I have encountered "religious nutters" who see themselves as a modern prophet or some other person of some spiritual superiority. They then use that superiority as clout, as some sort of weapon to bully the people they should actually be caring for.</p><p></p><p>I could quote scripture, examples from the gospels, which you could have used. But it would not be of any use, because this poor woman is desperate to help her child any way she can. And given the alternative of medications indefinitely (which still don't fix everything) and someone promising an instant cure ("if you have enough faith" - a handy cop-out for when the instant prayer cure fails to be permanent or even happen at all) - I understand the attraction of the instant cure, on any terms. I think a lot of us would be willing to sell our souls to save our children. In a way, that is what this poor woman has done - sold her soul to someone promising the impossible. Of course she has to stick to her path, because if she doesn't, she will be the one responsible for her daughter's ongoing medical condition.</p><p></p><p>That poor, poor woman...</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 529207, member: 1991"] Helpangel, that analogy abut the shepherd's rod and staff was something shared with us in church last Sunday. The crook is used to rescue sheep from tricky situations and the rod used to guide the sheep, as well as defend them from predators. it is not used to punish the sheep. You are spot on. Step, you said Not quite. The lady who took her daughter off medications, did so because someone else imposed their views on her. They then used emotional blackmail on her to get her to comply, and to also get her to close her mind to all medical possibilities. Which of us has not been where this woman is? How many of us, if told that we had to do X, Y or Z to help our children, have not at least considered it? I'm not talking necessarily about any sort of mumbo jumbo, I'm also talking here about the times that health professionals have told us to do something even where our instincts told us it was wrong. This is not much different; we do what the doctor wants because otherwise, the doctor might refuse to continue treatment. And we do what religious leaders tell us to do, because our social and spiritual acceptance by others depends on it. The sad thing is - if God really did heal through this "faith healer" then the healing would be form God, not from the faith healer. And God uses whatever tools come to hand, as so many of you have indicated. But too often I have encountered "religious nutters" who see themselves as a modern prophet or some other person of some spiritual superiority. They then use that superiority as clout, as some sort of weapon to bully the people they should actually be caring for. I could quote scripture, examples from the gospels, which you could have used. But it would not be of any use, because this poor woman is desperate to help her child any way she can. And given the alternative of medications indefinitely (which still don't fix everything) and someone promising an instant cure ("if you have enough faith" - a handy cop-out for when the instant prayer cure fails to be permanent or even happen at all) - I understand the attraction of the instant cure, on any terms. I think a lot of us would be willing to sell our souls to save our children. In a way, that is what this poor woman has done - sold her soul to someone promising the impossible. Of course she has to stick to her path, because if she doesn't, she will be the one responsible for her daughter's ongoing medical condition. That poor, poor woman... Marg [/QUOTE]
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