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<blockquote data-quote="Methuselah" data-source="post: 515250" data-attributes="member: 12725"><p>My difficult child 2 is a combo of Narcissistic PD and and Antisocial PD, but she is diagnosed with conduct disorder, because that's what is appropriate. She's exhausting and joy draining to live with--the constant policing, the lying, the tall tales, playing one person off another, the manipulating, having to be the center of everyone's life, the superficial charm, etc. But she is is no where near the nightmare my difficult child 1 is. She is also diagnosed with conduct disorder (antisocial personality disorder); she, however, is very, very dark. I fear a psychopath. </p><p></p><p>The sad thing with a personality disorder diagnosis is you learn they don't really change. If they do, it isn't until they are around 40. Some will change sooner, but they really, really have to want to change. I was told by the psychiatrist who diagnosed them they won't change their behavior until they don't want to be that person anymore. I tell difficult child 2 all the time "this won't change until you don't want to be a thief anymore. Until then, nothing will change." She really doesn't have a motivation to change. She is VERY good at stealing. She doesn't get caught often, and when she does, she can lie, blame someone else very convincingly. I'm hypersensitive to her ways, and she can steal right under my nose! She charms with one hand and steals with the other. When I tell people she steals, they always go, "That sweet girl?" She uses her "sweetness" to con people into believing she is an honest and trustworthy person. :-( I posted this year how her (idiot) VP at school wouldn't believe my husband and me when we told her about the stealing. Why? Because she had excellent phone manners. :-/</p><p></p><p>I don't understand my difficult children' conscience-less and self-centered thinking; I don't understand how they can treat others so despicably and not feel any guilt or shame. I've tried and tried. I've exhausted myself trying to understand and help. Their thought process is broken, and there isn't anything that can be done until they don't want to be that kind of person anymore. Since I have never seen a glimmer of true contrition from them or self-awareness, I sadly doubt it will ever happen.</p><p></p><p>I hope your son has an element of self-awareness, so he can see the light ASAP.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Methuselah, post: 515250, member: 12725"] My difficult child 2 is a combo of Narcissistic PD and and Antisocial PD, but she is diagnosed with conduct disorder, because that's what is appropriate. She's exhausting and joy draining to live with--the constant policing, the lying, the tall tales, playing one person off another, the manipulating, having to be the center of everyone's life, the superficial charm, etc. But she is is no where near the nightmare my difficult child 1 is. She is also diagnosed with conduct disorder (antisocial personality disorder); she, however, is very, very dark. I fear a psychopath. The sad thing with a personality disorder diagnosis is you learn they don't really change. If they do, it isn't until they are around 40. Some will change sooner, but they really, really have to want to change. I was told by the psychiatrist who diagnosed them they won't change their behavior until they don't want to be that person anymore. I tell difficult child 2 all the time "this won't change until you don't want to be a thief anymore. Until then, nothing will change." She really doesn't have a motivation to change. She is VERY good at stealing. She doesn't get caught often, and when she does, she can lie, blame someone else very convincingly. I'm hypersensitive to her ways, and she can steal right under my nose! She charms with one hand and steals with the other. When I tell people she steals, they always go, "That sweet girl?" She uses her "sweetness" to con people into believing she is an honest and trustworthy person. :-( I posted this year how her (idiot) VP at school wouldn't believe my husband and me when we told her about the stealing. Why? Because she had excellent phone manners. :-/ I don't understand my difficult children' conscience-less and self-centered thinking; I don't understand how they can treat others so despicably and not feel any guilt or shame. I've tried and tried. I've exhausted myself trying to understand and help. Their thought process is broken, and there isn't anything that can be done until they don't want to be that kind of person anymore. Since I have never seen a glimmer of true contrition from them or self-awareness, I sadly doubt it will ever happen. I hope your son has an element of self-awareness, so he can see the light ASAP. [/QUOTE]
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